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boxingcar 06-17-2007 12:58 PM

Bas Rutten training Kimbo! (video)
 
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oblate 06-17-2007 01:31 PM

Re: Bas Rutten training Kimbo! (video)
 
i hope ray knocks him out.

barneyrub 06-17-2007 02:10 PM

Re: Bas Rutten training Kimbo! (video)
 
Big deal, 2 weeks training. So if Audley Harrison got 2 weeks training with Emmanuel Steward would it make any difference in a fight? No its too little too late, it will all go out the window when hit.
It takes a long time to learn new things, experience and putting them into practice.
They are going crazy over on nuthugger central [sherdog], they all hated kimbo but as soon as Bas turns up they love kimbo lol.
Anyway, Kimbo is 31 and has never trained to a level of fitness before, you dont build stamina in such a short time when you had none before.
Remember, Tyson looked good in training before the Mcbride fight, in shape and working good in public training sessions, said he felt great but had no stamina in the fight.

boxingcar 06-17-2007 02:20 PM

Re: Bas Rutten training Kimbo! (video)
 
Personally I'm still rooting for Mercer!

scurlaruntings 06-17-2007 02:23 PM

Re: Bas Rutten training Kimbo! (video)
 
I want Mercer to KO him which im sure he will.All KImbo does it take away from all that is legitimate about combat sports.If he wants to be a fighter turn pro and do it for real.Backyard brawls with crack and smack heads on internet forums isnt the way to do it.

achillesthegreat 06-17-2007 02:37 PM

Re: Bas Rutten training Kimbo! (video)
 
Bas is going to teach him some good ****. Already we can see from the video how versatile his approach is becoming. However I've always thought Kimbo is quite slow and musclebound. I want Mercer to land something horrible.

theunderdog 06-18-2007 06:20 AM

Re: Bas Rutten training Kimbo! (video)
 
in slice-vs mercer, kimbo should pray he lands 4 or 5 of his power punches before mercer lands one of his

Koa 06-18-2007 03:18 PM

Re: Bas Rutten training Kimbo! (video)
 
I didn't see much from Kimbo at all. What you need to see is the sparring work. He comes foward throws a cross left hook then a knee, that tells me nothing.

I see him on the ground banging a bag, that tells me maybe he's working on one aspect of gnp. Was he a wrestler?

Well, if he was and Mercer isn't training to counter gnp and takedowns, this will be an easy fight for Kimbo to win as all he has to do is take him down and punch a guy on the ground who has no clue as to how to deal with fighting in that situation.. Some training in ground and pound, wrestling background is huge over someone who is purely relying on fighting on their feet..

If Kimbo fights standing up, he's done.. If he takes Mercer to the ground, which I expect he will try to have a prayer in this fight, he will win.. Mark my words.

SweetScienceFan 06-18-2007 06:14 PM

Re: Bas Rutten training Kimbo! (video)
 
Kimbo will win by ground and pound. He has not only been training for 2 weeks. He has been training for months and has came up to train with Bas Rutten just recently. I am sure that his training is far above anything that Mercer is doing now. I can assure you that Kimbo is good enough with his hands to get close enough to Mercer to get him down. Then he will pound him.

Donut62 06-18-2007 06:23 PM

Re: Bas Rutten training Kimbo! (video)
 
I have a feeling Mercer is in this for a paycheck and is going to get his **** pounded by Kimbo.

boxingcar 06-18-2007 06:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SweetScienceFan
Kimbo will win by ground and pound. He has not only been training for 2 weeks. He has been training for months and has came up to train with Bas Rutten just recently. I am sure that his training is far above anything that Mercer is doing now. I can assure you that Kimbo is good enough with his hands to get close enough to Mercer to get him down. Then he will pound him.

Yes , but here's the thing..
if Kimbo's pride is stronger...in other words , if Kimbo can't help himself and feels forced to try to KO mercer and to beat the guy at his own game (boxing)....

Then Mercer has a realistic chance to KO Kimbo and beat Him that way..

Or Kimbo , just stick to a simple and basic gameplan , and follow some solid instructions , keep Mercer on the ground...g&p him , win by TKO or UD.

SweetScienceFan 06-18-2007 06:38 PM

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Mercer did give one funny interview about this fight though. When the man asked him what Kimbo brings into this fight that nobody else Mercer fought has brought: Mercer replied "Ugliness".

SweetScienceFan 06-18-2007 06:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by boxingcar
Yes , but here's the thing..
if Kimbo's pride is stronger...in other words , if Kimbo can't help himself and feels forced to try to KO mercer and to beat the guy at his own game (boxing)....

Then Mercer has a realistic chance to KO Kimbo and beat Him that way..

Or Kimbo , just stick to a simple and basic gameplan , and follow some solid instructions , keep Mercer on the ground...g&p him , win by TKO or UD.

I don't think that Kimbo is stupid. I have seen him go for takedowns in two of his fights that are only stand up rules. So I think that if he gets hit his instincts will take over and he will go for a takedown right away. Mercer seems so weak in the legs these days that he is going to be an easy target for takedowns. Especially since his introduction into K-1 when he had his legs kicked to death.

Dostoevsky 06-18-2007 06:48 PM

Re: Bas Rutten training Kimbo! (video)
 
Mercer = 44
Kimbo = 33

SweetScienceFan 06-18-2007 06:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Iron Duke
Mercer = 44
Kimbo = 33

And that doesn't begin to explain the difference in wear and tear on the the body. While Kimbo does some back yard fights, outside of the Gannon fight he doesn't take any sort of beating. Mercer has been getting pounded on for years. Not only in his fights where his great chin is his best defense, but also all of the sparring that he has done over the years.


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