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Shake 09-19-2009 03:15 PM

Could Floyd Mayweather beat a prime Meldrick Taylor?
 
While Floyd is undeniably greater and more proven, I think Taylor's specific combination of handspeed, workrate and determination makes this virtually unwinnable for Floyd.

Worst stylistic matchup for Floyd this side of Thomas Hearns?

Sweet Pea 09-19-2009 03:24 PM

Re: Could Floyd Mayweather beat a prime Meldrick Taylor?
 
The one area where Taylor is significantly lacking in comparison is the one that I think turns this fight in favor of Floyd. Intelligence.

I simply think Floyd is too adaptable to lose to a fighter as flawed as Taylor, regardless of his physical qualities. Mayweather is not so very far behind him physically that his technical and strategical edges would be nullified. I rather see it the other way around. Over 12 rounds I'd probably favor Floyd in a very close, but deserved decision.

Shake 09-19-2009 03:43 PM

Re: Could Floyd Mayweather beat a prime Meldrick Taylor?
 
I do think Mayweather is a much better ring general as a well as a -- well, as you said, just a smarter fighter. I can't visualise it, though -- Judah was able to land on Mayweather due to handspeed, I thought, and with Taylors workrate to augment it I just see rounds in the bank.

Now that I think about it, Mayweather might be able to win an ugly one by jabbing, clinching and fighting clever inside. I could see him frustrating Taylor like this -- seems like an a-typical approach for him, but who knows, he showed against Hatton he can in-fight.

How do you see the fight playing out, Pea?

JudgeDredd 09-19-2009 04:06 PM

Re: Could Floyd Mayweather beat a prime Meldrick Taylor?
 
No, it's no secret Mayweather can't deal with more than 2 or 3 punches at a time, coupled with Taylors handspeed Mayweather would drop a decision

gooners!! 09-19-2009 04:09 PM

Re: Could Floyd Mayweather beat a prime Meldrick Taylor?
 
I think Taylor would pose a problem because of how many punches he throws and the speed of his hands, combination's but i dont know if he would beat Mayweather.

Whitaker, Forrest, Winky, Hearns would be my picks to beat Mayweather.

Beeston Brawler 09-19-2009 04:18 PM

Re: Could Floyd Mayweather beat a prime Meldrick Taylor?
 
I think Floyd would work out a way to reduce the punch volume of Taylor - similar in a way to how he neutralised Ricky Hatton but not as obvious.... nor as easily.

This is one area where he is grossly underestimated, in his ability to figure the opponent out and adapt his gameplan to suit.

A lot of fans don't appreciate the chess match type situation, but I certainly do... provided the chess match doesn't last the distance!

PowerPuncher 09-19-2009 05:08 PM

Re: Could Floyd Mayweather beat a prime Meldrick Taylor?
 
Ironically this is a much harder match up for Floyd than Chavez stylistically, Meldrick's speed/workrate/skills spells problems, Floyd has a big advantage in defense, generalship and countering ability. Floyd has fought many high workrate types but no one as fast and skilled as Meldrick, although Maldrick's speed gets a little overrated on here

I think this is a hard fight to pick because of the above reasons, 1 prediction I would make is taylor is likely ahead at the half way point with Floyd picking up the pace more around the mid-late rounds

duranimal 09-19-2009 05:18 PM

Re: Could Floyd Mayweather beat a prime Meldrick Taylor?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Pea (Post 4971466)
The one area where Taylor is significantly lacking in comparison is the one that I think turns this fight in favor of Floyd. Intelligence.

I simply think Floyd is too adaptable to lose to a fighter as flawed as Taylor, regardless of his physical qualities. Mayweather is not so very far behind him physically that his technical and strategical edges would be nullified. I rather see it the other way around. Over 12 rounds I'd probably favor Floyd in a very close, but deserved decision.

Not a chance, at 140 (Pre-Chavez + Chavez fight) Taylor is Money's very worst nightmare, Money would'nt have time 2 fuckin breath, he has'nt no where near the power/speed too hold off Meldrick, talk about under siege at warp speed.

TAYLOR MADE CHAVEZ LOOK LIKE A FUCKIN TORTOISE, he was useing Julio's melon head as a speed ball:smoke never seen fuck-all like him in my life & too watch him live WOW, Floyd does not have any answers for this feller except RUN & RUN some more THEN/TODAY OR IN YOUR DREAMS:bbb

rodney 09-29-2009 09:05 PM

Re: Could Floyd Mayweather beat a prime Meldrick Taylor?
 
Yes.
With ease.

Thread Stealer 09-29-2009 09:08 PM

Re: Could Floyd Mayweather beat a prime Meldrick Taylor?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Pea (Post 4971466)
The one area where Taylor is significantly lacking in comparison is the one that I think turns this fight in favor of Floyd. Intelligence.

I simply think Floyd is too adaptable to lose to a fighter as flawed as Taylor, regardless of his physical qualities. Mayweather is not so very far behind him physically that his technical and strategical edges would be nullified. I rather see it the other way around. Over 12 rounds I'd probably favor Floyd in a very close, but deserved decision.

Agreed.

rekcutnevets 09-29-2009 10:08 PM

Re: Could Floyd Mayweather beat a prime Meldrick Taylor?
 
Taylor would win any round that Mayweather would try to coast in, and with the pace Taylor would set you can bet there would be a few.

Taylor may have a speed advantage; but I believe Mayweather can keep the fight at the end of his jab, use his footwork, and counter effectively.

I think Taylor may manage to win 4 or 5 rounds, but I can't see him winning. Mayweather by decision.

Sweet Pea 09-30-2009 02:43 AM

Re: Could Floyd Mayweather beat a prime Meldrick Taylor?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by duranimal (Post 4972331)
Not a chance, at 140 (Pre-Chavez + Chavez fight) Taylor is Money's very worst nightmare, Money would'nt have time 2 fuckin breath, he has'nt no where near the power/speed too hold off Meldrick, talk about under siege at warp speed.

TAYLOR MADE CHAVEZ LOOK LIKE A FUCKIN TORTOISE, he was useing Julio's melon head as a speed ball:smoke never seen fuck-all like him in my life & too watch him live WOW, Floyd does not have any answers for this feller except RUN & RUN some more THEN/TODAY OR IN YOUR DREAMS:bbb

Go fuck yourself. I gave my goddamn opinion and you're going to jump down my throat like everyone else who slightly disagrees with anything you write. In my dreams? I fucking hate Mayweather, why the fuck would I want him to win this bout? I call it as I see it. From an analytical standpoint, Floyd holds the edges in this matchup because Taylor's advantage in handspeed (which is his only advantage here by the way) is not going to nullify all of Mayweather's advantages in strategy, ring generalship, and adaptability. The fact that Taylor made Chavez look slow is completely irrelevant to how a fight with Mayweather would go down, considering they are polar opposites stylistically and Mayweather was far faster than Chavez himself. If you want to address something I write, fine. Show some fucking manners next time.

Flea Man 09-30-2009 02:43 AM

Re: Could Floyd Mayweather beat a prime Meldrick Taylor?
 
Duranimal does fly off the handle all the time :rofl

duranimal 09-30-2009 03:57 AM

Re: Could Floyd Mayweather beat a prime Meldrick Taylor?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Pea (Post 5057597)
Go fuck yourself. I gave my goddamn opinion and you're going to jump down my throat like everyone else who slightly disagrees with anything you write. In my dreams? I fucking hate Mayweather, why the fuck would I want him to win this bout? I call it as I see it. From an analytical standpoint, Floyd holds the edges in this matchup because Taylor's advantage in handspeed (which is his only advantage here by the way) is not going to nullify all of Mayweather's advantages in strategy, ring generalship, and adaptability. The fact that Taylor made Chavez look slow is completely irrelevant to how a fight with Mayweather would go down, considering they are polar opposites stylistically and Mayweather was far faster than Chavez himself. If you want to address something I write, fine. Show some fucking manners next time.

Fuck Off, you rude ignorant little fart, i just gave an honest opinion that differ's from your's, so GROW UP & stop acting like some 1st time menstrating schoolgirl just because someone has the neck 2 question/disagree with you.

You're a hypercrite of byzantine proportions & a classic cyber warrior who collapses under stress when any of his analysis is brought into question, you're totally inflexible when it comes too understanding the opinions of others which is no doubt down too your inexpierence of real life.

I'am not remotely interested in what you think of mayweather i.e hating him ect, your'e meant too be able to give an opinion based on what you percieve to be the strenghs/weaknesses of each combatent & not on personalities & you FAIL :deal

So climb down of your self appointed throne your majesty & try to see the world as others do & that way you may recieve all the back slapping praise you so desperatly seek:smoke

duranimal 09-30-2009 03:59 AM

Re: Could Floyd Mayweather beat a prime Meldrick Taylor?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fleaman (Post 5057601)
Duranimal does fly off the handle all the time :rofl

fleaman: honestly mate i thought i was being quite polite to the little cunt:think


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