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techks 07-01-2010 11:59 AM
Was Barrera prime when he first fought Pacquiao?
 
I'm no sure if he was but discuss.

Reuben 07-01-2010 12:01 PM
Re: Was Barrera prime when he first fought Pacquiao?
 
He was peaked against Naz IMO.

Swarmer 07-01-2010 12:02 PM
Re: Was Barrera prime when he first fought Pacquiao?
 
He was still in good condition but obviously not his best I think.

Pac tends to make people look that way though.

IsaL 07-01-2010 12:03 PM
Re: Was Barrera prime when he first fought Pacquiao?
 
I will say he was a bit past his best...In his previous fights against Pac, MAB had showed he had slowed down and lost that ferocity he once had in his fight against Johnny Tapia, and against Kevin Kelly he showed he was considerably slower, and had gotten sloppy.

It was the consensus that both Morales and MAB lost a bit of their prime against each other in 2000, 3 years before Pac fought MAB.

IsaL 07-01-2010 12:05 PM
Re: Was Barrera prime when he first fought Pacquiao?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reuben (Post 7206100)
He was peaked against Naz IMO.
That was his last great performance.

stevexx28 07-01-2010 12:05 PM
Re: Was Barrera prime when he first fought Pacquiao?
 
Close enough IMO. His peak night I think was against EM in 2000, even though he "lost". I think he was mentally and physically unstoppable that night, exept by maybe a wilfredo gomez or something.

Boom_Boom 07-01-2010 12:06 PM
Re: Was Barrera prime when he first fought Pacquiao?
 
no question about it he was, he was just coming off the best wins of his career and was at his career's highpoint when he faced pac.

Suga 07-01-2010 12:06 PM
Re: Was Barrera prime when he first fought Pacquiao?
 
I believe he was in his prime, he was just unprepared against Pac.

techks 07-01-2010 12:07 PM
Re: Was Barrera prime when he first fought Pacquiao?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reuben (Post 7206100)
He was peaked against Naz IMO.
Yeah that was one of his best performances.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Swarmer (Post 7206107)
He was still in good condition but obviously not his best I think.

Pac tends to make people look that way though.
I know it's hard to say because also Pacquiao just tends to bring out the worst in some fighters because of his style.

Quote:
Originally Posted by UliUli (Post 7206120)
I will say he was a bit past his best...In his previous fights against Pac, MAB had showed he had slowed down and lost that ferocity he once had in his fight against Johnny Tapia, and against Kevin Kelly he showed he was considerably slower, and had gotten sloppy.

It was the consensus that both Morales and MAB lost a bit of their prime against each other in 2000, 3 years before Pac fought MAB.
For certain Morales wasn't prime against Pacquiao and I do agree that the war between Morales & Barrera toke something out of them.

IsaL 07-01-2010 12:09 PM
Re: Was Barrera prime when he first fought Pacquiao?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boom_Boom (Post 7206157)
no question about it he was, he was just coming off the best wins of his career and was at his career's highpoint when he faced pac.
An old Kevin Kelly, a past prime Johnny Tapia, and a contraversial win over Morales were his best wins????? :lol:

U dumb. :yep

techks 07-01-2010 12:13 PM
Re: Was Barrera prime when he first fought Pacquiao?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suga (Post 7206158)
I believe he was in his prime, he was just unprepared against Pac.
Like Barrera was the hungrier man in his fight with Hamed, Pacquiao was hungrier man in his first fight with Barrera.

Swarmer 07-01-2010 12:17 PM
Re: Was Barrera prime when he first fought Pacquiao?
 
Wasnt he trying to set up another fight using Pac as a springboard?

Worked out well...:lol:

IsaL 07-01-2010 12:21 PM
Re: Was Barrera prime when he first fought Pacquiao?
 
I think most people that say he was, never saw MAB fight before.

The MAB that fought Pac, Tapia, Kelly, Morales II, was not the same MAB who fought Morales I and prior.

MABs last great performance was CLEARLY Hamed. Just like Morales' last great performance was Pac.

J.R. 07-01-2010 12:24 PM
Re: Was Barrera prime when he first fought Pacquiao?
 
I think he just barely hit 30 at that point so Pac probably caught him just off his physical prime. Not too far past it though & that's why I think Barrera would never be able to beat Pac. It's Manny's speed what he can't deal with.

techks 07-01-2010 12:24 PM
Re: Was Barrera prime when he first fought Pacquiao?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by UliUli (Post 7206273)
I think most people that say he was, never saw MAB fight before.

The MAB that fought Pac, Tapia, Kelly, Morales II, was not the same PAC who fought Morales I and prior.

MABs last great performance was CLEARLY Hamed. Just like Morales' last great performance was Pac.
Whoah don't you mean MAB? I'm confused here lol.


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