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knox-boxer 07-01-2007 02:49 PM

Henderson vs. Rampage
 
This one of the most interesting matches in the next few months.


Both are solid wreslters with Hendo having the edge in ground and subs. They both have very heavy hands, and Hendo's chin is about as solid as they come.

I've got to give the edge to the first time ever Unified mma champ.

elixirvtec 07-01-2007 04:00 PM

Re: Henderson vs. Rampage
 
Rampage only weakness is the clinch which hendo does not use. I hope rampage takes the win. IBut I think this match could go either way. 50/50. We have already seen rampage **** up some serious wrestlers. We don't see rampage on his back much either. I dont think hendo will be able to take him down and will be force to fight standing up which i think rampage has the edge over hendo.

mann187 07-01-2007 05:25 PM

Re: Henderson vs. Rampage
 
Rampage can trade with Hendo because he has a good chin. The accumulation of strikes from Wand and Shogun is what stopped Rampage. Hendo from what I seen has very good wrestling and a good standup game so its going to be tough. But I think Rampage because he is naturally bigger and has similar attributes as well as the hunger to stay champ will win maybe by late stoppage but more likely decision

Donut62 07-01-2007 07:07 PM

Re: Henderson vs. Rampage
 
I really can't see this fight ending. I think it will be a decision, but I'm unsure which way it will go right now. Helluva fight.

knox-boxer 07-01-2007 08:00 PM

Re: Henderson vs. Rampage
 
Randelman had him down a number of times, Wandy, Arona, and Shogun all got him down with realitve ease. Henderson is a better wrestler then all of them.

elixirvtec 07-01-2007 11:58 PM

Re: Henderson vs. Rampage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by knox-boxer
Randelman had him down a number of times, Wandy, Arona, and Shogun all got him down with realitve ease. Henderson is a better wrestler then all of them.

Then you must of not seen the hendo and arona fight. Arona go the better of him on the ground game. Hendo is good but he got beat.

Beebs 07-02-2007 02:32 AM

Re: Henderson vs. Rampage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elixirvtec
Then you must of not seen the hendo and arona fight. Arona go the better of him on the ground game. Hendo is good but he got beat.

Hendo is still the better wrestler than Arona.

Dostoevsky 07-02-2007 02:35 AM

Re: Henderson vs. Rampage
 
This isn't wrestling.....this is MMA!
Can you punch someones head on the ground in wrestling? NAY!

Not to mention Hendo is practically a striker nowadays anyway, he doesn't really utilize his wrestling skills much anymore.

the same with Liddell and his wrestling.

Beebs 07-02-2007 02:46 AM

Re: Henderson vs. Rampage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Iron Duke
This isn't wrestling.....this is MMA!
Can you punch someones head on the ground in wrestling? NAY!

Not to mention Hendo is practically a striker nowadays anyway, he doesn't really utilize his wrestling skills much anymore.

the same with Liddell and his wrestling.

I wasn't saying that, just pointing out that Hendo is a far superior wrestler to Arona.

But you make a good point about Hendo, he should use his wrestling more, he is very good and GnP and can stay out of almost any sub, but in his last 2 fights he used his wrestling brilliantly.

He took down Vitor at will and ground him down the whole fight, then in the Silva fight he mauled him in the second round from top position, and had great takedowns throughout the fight, and it really helped to have two guys who could call them correctly in Trigg and Barnett; Mir is good at properly calling wrestling as far as MMA announcers go too.

Nuke 07-02-2007 10:44 AM

Re: Henderson vs. Rampage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mann187
Rampage can trade with Hendo because he has a good chin. The accumulation of strikes from Wand and Shogun is what stopped Rampage. Hendo from what I seen has very good wrestling and a good standup game so its going to be tough. But I think Rampage because he is naturally bigger and has similar attributes as well as the hunger to stay champ will win maybe by late stoppage but more likely decision



Hendo has NEVER been KOed, or TKOed, so I'd give Hendo the chin advantage, so don't think Hendo won't trade with Rampage. Plus Hendo is a champ too (2 diff classes), what makes you so sure that Rampage is the more hungry champ?

SweetScienceFan 07-02-2007 10:45 AM

Re: Henderson vs. Rampage
 
I have to go with Henderson, although I feel that he should stay at 185 where he is at his best. I wouldn't be suprised to see Rampage win do to his size.

Nuke 07-02-2007 10:45 AM

Re: Henderson vs. Rampage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beebs
Mir is good at properly calling wrestling as far as MMA announcers go too.


I like Mir he is technical as far as moves and has alot more knowlegde then dumb and dumber (UFC announcers)

knox-boxer 07-02-2007 12:00 PM

Re: Henderson vs. Rampage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Iron Duke
This isn't wrestling.....this is MMA!
Can you punch someones head on the ground in wrestling? NAY!

Not to mention Hendo is practically a striker nowadays anyway, he doesn't really utilize his wrestling skills much anymore.

the same with Liddell and his wrestling.

Actually you can.

Practially a striker? Why cause he choose to stand and trade with Wandy? Watch the welterweight grand prix and tell me he is just a striker now.

Go watch some fights then come and talk to me.

hopkinsfan07 07-02-2007 12:08 PM

Re: Henderson vs. Rampage
 
i think Rampage Jackson will take this one

mann187 07-02-2007 01:18 PM

Re: Henderson vs. Rampage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuke
Hendo has NEVER been KOed, or TKOed, so I'd give Hendo the chin advantage, so don't think Hendo won't trade with Rampage. Plus Hendo is a champ too (2 diff classes), what makes you so sure that Rampage is the more hungry champ?

I understand your point, I think that Rampage will win because he is naturally bigger and stronger. Hendo can compete with the heavier opponents because of the wrestling skills he posseses. I said stoppage because I think that page will get top position because of his natural strength and GnP his way to a win.

Also Chucks chin was never checked but page put him on his ass with one shot so its not impossible to lose by TKO or KO. And i mentioned the hunger of Page because now he in the limelight and will want to stay there because of the money it brings. Hendo meanwhile has been a champ for longer. Hendo will be up for the fight no doubt but I think Page will win.

P.S. i havent seen much of Hendo but i seen a few fights so judgement based on the few fights i seen


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