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DobyZhee 05-15-2011 04:20 PM

Who put on the more masterful performance: Andre Ward or Manny Pacquiao?
 
Well, both their opponents had their weaknesses. Both fighters are considered p4p top fighters. Both pitched shutouts..

well?

gobblock 05-15-2011 04:29 PM

Re: Who put on the more masterful performance: Andre Ward or Manny Pacquiao?
 
Ward. He fought a live opponent who actually had something at stake. Pac fought an old, tired PPV minor leaguer.

Mr. Sandman 05-15-2011 04:34 PM

Re: Who put on the more masterful performance: Andre Ward or Manny Pacquiao?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gobblock (Post 9659704)
Ward. He fought a live opponent who actually had something at stake. Pac fought an old, tired PPV minor leaguer.

A live opponent that throws 9 punches a round?

Beenie 05-15-2011 04:48 PM

Re: Who put on the more masterful performance: Andre Ward or Manny Pacquiao?
 
If Mosley fought the way AA did then he would have gotten knocked out. Pac successfully removed the fighting spirit out of Mosley and thus offered up the better performance, imo.

IntentionalButt 05-15-2011 04:54 PM

Re: Who put on the more masterful performance: Andre Ward or Manny Pacquiao?
 
Obviously Ward.

Don't use Mosley's negativity and movement as an excuse. Abraham's turtle shell and low workrate and unwillingness to engage on the inside in most rounds made him just as unwilling a target.

The opponents' performances cancel each other out.

Ward is in his prime; Pacquiao is well past his. Their respective performances reflected that.

compukiller 05-15-2011 05:35 PM

Re: Who put on the more masterful performance: Andre Ward or Manny Pacquiao?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beenie (Post 9659885)
If Mosley fought the way AA did then he would have gotten knocked out. Pac successfully removed the fighting spirit out of Mosley and thus offered up the better performance, imo.

The fact that Mosley was close to 40 and had not won a fight in over 2 years had nothing to do with it, I suppose?

Beenie 05-15-2011 05:37 PM

Re: Who put on the more masterful performance: Andre Ward or Manny Pacquiao?
 
Even with a retreating unengaged opponent, Pac still managed to score a kd and landed the harder and more punishing shots than Ward did against a guy who stood in front of him for 12 rounds.

The lack of combination punching by Ward also doesn't help his cause, imv.

Mr. Sandman 05-15-2011 05:39 PM

Re: Who put on the more masterful performance: Andre Ward or Manny Pacquiao?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by compukiller (Post 9660309)
The fact that Mosley was close to 40 and had not won a fight in over 2 years had nothing to do with it, I suppose?

Abraham's only "notable" win at 168 is over a shot to pieces Jermain Taylor who was 1-3 in his previous 4 fights, losing two of them by KO?


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