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ajackman1 10-13-2012 10:19 AM

Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss
 
- You can argue his only true Loss was to Floyd
- His fight against John wasn't a clear loss
- Marquez never clearly lost to Pacquiao. I felt Marquez won all 3
- The Norwood fight wasn't a clear loss. I had Marquez winning 114-112.

- The truth is the only time you can truly say he clearly lost was when he moved up to fight Floyd.

Zopilote 10-13-2012 10:19 AM

Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss
 
Agreed! :thumbsup

IntentionalButt 10-13-2012 10:20 AM

Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss
 
The John loss is legit. You can make an argument for JMM deserving the nod, but it was in no way a robbery the likes of which he suffered thrice against Pacquiao.

DaveyboyEssexUK 10-13-2012 10:23 AM

Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ajackman1 (Post 13981345)
- You can argue his only true Loss was to Floyd
- His fight against John wasn't a clear loss
- Marquez never clearly lost to Pacquiao. I felt Marquez won all 3
- The Norwood fight wasn't a clear loss. I had Marquez winning 114-112.

- The truth is the only time you can truly say he clearly lost was when he moved up to fight Floyd.

Its not normally that i agree with you, but i do so here

#Tremendous 10-13-2012 10:29 AM

Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss
 
I don't know about the John fight because I never watched it but to me as a fan seeing those 4 extra loses on that loss column bothers me.

IntentionalButt 10-13-2012 10:31 AM

Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by #Tremendous (Post 13981419)
I don't know about the John fight because I never watched it but to me as a fan seeing those 4 extra loses on that loss column bothers me.

Give it a watch when you can. :good

As for what's in his column, real fans know that 3 of those L's have an asterisk next to them and that his archrival never did enough on a given night to really beat him.

puga_ni_nana 10-13-2012 10:32 AM

Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss
 
he should be undefeated since floyd cheated him off the scales.

huitzi 10-13-2012 10:39 AM

Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss
 
yes, in other words he has been outclassed once

Zopilote 10-13-2012 12:11 PM

Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss
 
Anyone have any details about his firsy loss by DQ? I know it resulted by a punch landed supposivley after the bell or something along those lines...Even as a huge JMM fan, i dont have the exact details about that.

Leon 10-13-2012 02:14 PM

Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IntentionalButt (Post 13981358)
The John loss is legit. You can make an argument for JMM deserving the nod, but it was in no way a robbery the likes of which he suffered thrice against Pacquiao.

damn you have Juan winning ALL THREE fights!?

sbbigmike 10-13-2012 02:18 PM

Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss
 
JMM has only fought 2 fighters near his level of competition so that really don't mean shit:lol:




Fucking Fraud:patsch

slugger3000 10-13-2012 02:19 PM

Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IntentionalButt (Post 13981432)
Give it a watch when you can. :good

As for what's in his column, real fans know that 3 of those L's have an asterisk next to them and that his archrival never did enough on a given night to really beat him.

You mention the 3 pacquiao fights but don't mention norwood or John.. Both were very close.. I actually had JMM winning those..

Juiceboxbiotch 10-13-2012 02:24 PM

Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by puga_ni_nana (Post 13981438)
he should be undefeated since floyd cheated him off the scales.

I have to agree with this.

:deal

....except for the undefeated part. I thought Pacquiao won the 2nd fight.
*bracing for incoming onslaught*

shanahan14 10-13-2012 02:34 PM

Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss
 
JMM fans are annoying. 3 close fights to Pac = 3 robberies. Shut up. He'll lose once again.

turbotime 10-13-2012 02:36 PM

Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss
 
Well, Pac really should have gotten the decision in the first fight, it was the judges scoring error. But Juan really got screwed in the third fight. :-(


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