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orriray59 11-13-2012 02:39 PM

How highly would you rate Carlos Monzon's middleweight reign?
 
Once he grabbed the titles from Nino Benvenuti in 1970 in a cracking fight, he went on to defend the title's numerous times.

He lost the WBC middleweight belt by facing Jose Napoles rather than Rodrigo Valdez, however, he went on to beat Valdez twice. He consistently defended against stellar opposition and didn't lose a fight in that period. He fought and beat the likes of Emile Griffith, Rodrigo Valdez, Bennie Briscoe, Nino Benvenuti, Denny Moyer, etc.

Of course you'd be insane to not rate this reign of dominance quite highly, but what's your personal opinion on this? Do you think there was ever a middleweight reign greater?

Thoughts?

Hands of Iron 11-13-2012 02:43 PM

Re: How highly would you rate Carlos Monzon's middleweight reign?
 
Best middleweight reign ever.

orriray59 11-13-2012 02:46 PM

Re: How highly would you rate Carlos Monzon's middleweight reign?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hands of Iron (Post 14195931)
Best middleweight reign ever.

How would you rank it amongst the all-time reigns that you know of?

Hands of Iron 11-13-2012 02:52 PM

Re: How highly would you rate Carlos Monzon's middleweight reign?
 
Up there with Benny Leonard and Joe Louis.

anj 11-13-2012 02:53 PM

Re: How highly would you rate Carlos Monzon's middleweight reign?
 
Mindblowing. I probably have this guy in my top 15-20 all time, maybe better but I cba thinking about it.

I put him above Marvin Hagler.

Richel Hersisia 11-13-2012 02:56 PM

Re: How highly would you rate Carlos Monzon's middleweight reign?
 
yeah best MW reign ever.. Hagler's isn't far behind tho

orriray59 11-13-2012 02:56 PM

Re: How highly would you rate Carlos Monzon's middleweight reign?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by anj (Post 14196003)
Mindblowing. I probably have this guy in my top 15-20 all time, maybe better but I cba thinking about it.

I put him above Marvin Hagler.

I wouldn't rate Monzon that highly, although he was definitely a fantastic fighter.

I love his consistency the most, though. Regularly fought top opposition and won each time out.

orriray59 11-13-2012 02:57 PM

Re: How highly would you rate Carlos Monzon's middleweight reign?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richel Hersisia (Post 14196024)
yeah best MW reign ever.. Hagler's isn't far behind tho

As a matter of interest, who would you rank as the GOAT at middleweight? Greb, Hagler, Monzon and Robinson appear to be four primary candidates for this position.

salsanchezfan 11-13-2012 02:58 PM

Re: How highly would you rate Carlos Monzon's middleweight reign?
 
Well, I'm not sure...........I mean, he didn't even fight Robert Allen once.

Hands of Iron 11-13-2012 03:00 PM

Re: How highly would you rate Carlos Monzon's middleweight reign?
 
Regularly fought top 3ish opposition. He didn't pick from the bottom half of the division like Holmes often times would. Everything was top notch to what was available to him, same with Napoles and Gavilan, Hagler.

orriray59 11-13-2012 03:18 PM

Re: How highly would you rate Carlos Monzon's middleweight reign?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hands of Iron (Post 14196044)
Regularly fought top 3ish opposition. He didn't pick from the bottom half of the division like Holmes often times would. Everything was top notch to what was available to him, same with Napoles and Gavilan, Hagler.

And he beat them all, Griffith twice, Benvenuti twice, Valdez twice, etc.

Outstanding.

PowerPuncher 11-13-2012 03:20 PM

Re: How highly would you rate Carlos Monzon's middleweight reign?
 
It's very good, I do think Hagler beat better opposition, but Monzon beat the best of his time

red cobra 11-13-2012 04:40 PM

Re: How highly would you rate Carlos Monzon's middleweight reign?
 
Monzon had the greatest middleweight reign ever, and one of the best of all time. He capped it of uniquely, that being by retiring unbeaten as champion. That evil woman killer.

Flea Man 11-13-2012 04:43 PM

Re: How highly would you rate Carlos Monzon's middleweight reign?
 
Yeah, pretty good.

Senor Pepe' 11-13-2012 04:53 PM

Re: How highly would you rate Carlos Monzon's middleweight reign?
 
As about a dominant run as anyone for his period.

Would have liked to see him fight Rodrigo Valdez sometime in 1974, rather than an
undersized and old Jose Napoles.

And Carlos could have picked off a faded Bob Foster in early-1974, which would have
cemented his greatness.

Have to be honest though, Carlos looked like a 'stiff-board' versus Tony Licata at
Madison Square Garden.


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