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SP_Mauler 11-23-2012 03:21 AM

Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring
 
Was reading a book earlier and it said "Rumour had it Joe Gans dropped Dempsey in sparring"

Any truth to it?

McGrain 11-23-2012 05:40 AM

Re: Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring
 
What was the book?

Shake 11-23-2012 07:28 AM

Re: Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring
 
Did Dempsey ever win a spar?

Could be that Dempsey was such a draw and a superstar that things like this popped up.

janitor 11-23-2012 08:03 AM

Re: Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring
 
Of course, things stranger than fiction happen in sparring, but sparring Chineese whispers are also prolific.

McGrain 11-23-2012 08:25 AM

Re: Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring
 
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Originally Posted by Shake (Post 14256675)
Did Dempsey ever win a spar?

:lol:
He was a beast in sparring though.

PowerPuncher 11-23-2012 08:44 AM

Re: Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring
 
Sparring is upside down world, a lightweight and middleweight knock down and beat up the world heavyweight champ, Dempsey fights big black men.....upside down world it is

Anything can happen in boxing/sparring but yea I doubt it

LittleRed 11-23-2012 09:10 AM

Re: Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring
 
No. Dempsey was 15 fucking years old when Gans died of TB. Simply did not happen.

McGrain 11-23-2012 09:12 AM

Re: Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring
 
Oh come on! Dempsey was riding the rails as a 6 year old, fighting in tough mining towns against tough miners, some of them out-weighing mordern heavyweight by up to 100lbs, and he generally remained unbeaten...he would have stepped in to give Gans a workout in a flash.

LittleRed 11-23-2012 09:27 AM

Re: Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring
 
In that case... Gans was black and Dempsey ducked him. Truth!

mcvey 11-23-2012 09:59 AM

Re: Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring
 
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Originally Posted by McGrain (Post 14257089)
Oh come on! Dempsey was riding the rails as a 6 year old, fighting in tough mining towns against tough miners, some of them out-weighing mordern heavyweight by up to 100lbs, and he generally remained unbeaten...he would have stepped in to give Gans a workout in a flash.

I hope this doesn't get me banned , but I believe the Joe Gans referred to is the gentleman on the right of this photo. ie Panama Joe Gans, but you knew that didn't you Hamish?

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I dont think there are many stories of Dempsey being floored in sparring ,it seems most went out of their way to avoid making him unduly upset. According to Larry Gains, he punished the respectful ones , but he crucified any that got adventurous.

mcvey 11-23-2012 10:02 AM

Re: Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring
 
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Originally Posted by LittleRed (Post 14257081)
No. Dempsey was 15 fucking years old when Gans died of TB. Simply did not happen.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]Panama Joe Gans, with Wills ,and Louis.1938


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Godfrey was the main sparring partner
Tate was used for strength
Jamaica Kid for brawling
Gans for speed .
[I pinched this info from CBZ.]
BTW. Gans beat Dempsey in 1923 and Wills in 1927 .

LittleRed 11-23-2012 11:11 AM

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I assumed we were talking about the Old Master, Joe Gans, not Panama Joe Gans, or Allentown Joe Gans, or Italian Joe Gans. So, yes, a boxer named Joe Gans probably did drop Dempsey.

Johnstown 11-23-2012 11:14 AM

Re: Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring
 
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Originally Posted by LittleRed (Post 14257624)
I assumed we were talking about the Old Master, Joe Gans, not Panama Joe Gans, or Allentown Joe Gans, or Italian Joe Gans. So, yes, a boxer named Joe Gans probably did drop Dempsey.

somehow what you just wrote reminded me of this....[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEjo0ajod1M[/ame]

LittleRed 11-23-2012 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnstown (Post 14257634)
somehow what you just wrote reminded me of this....[Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...]

Hey! Its Enrico Palazzo!

FastHands(beeb) 11-23-2012 11:27 AM

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Absolutely brilliant clip!


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