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mcvey

11-25-2012 06:27 AM

Willsv Louis,Dempsey,Marciano,Johnson?

Harry Wills is enjoying a positive re-evaluation at present.
I've matched him with 4 Champs .prime for prime 15rds ,who wins these bouts?
Jack Dempsey v H W
Joe Louis v HW
Rocky Marciano v HW
Jack Johnson v HW

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Johnstown

11-25-2012 06:32 AM

Re: Willsv Louis,Dempsey,Marciano,Johnson?

didnt he lose bill tate while in his prime...ehhhh

lufcrazy

11-25-2012 06:50 AM

Re: Willsv Louis,Dempsey,Marciano,Johnson?

insufficient footage to make any worthwhile pick in my opinion.

mcvey

11-25-2012 06:59 AM

Re: Wills v Louis,Dempsey,Marciano,Johnson?

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Originally Posted by lufcrazy (Post 14270124)

insufficient footage to make any worthwhile pick in my opinion.

Does this also apply to
Harry Greb,Maxie Rosenbloom, Joe Jeannette, Bob Fitzsimmons, Marvin Hart,Jim Corbett, Peter Jackson,Stan Ketchel, Billy Miske, Frank Klaus ,Billy Petrolle , Benny Leonard,Joe Walcott, Joe Gans, etc.?
If so fair enough. But we must then cease matching up classic fighters if that is the criteria.

lufcrazy

11-25-2012 08:10 AM

Re: Willsv Louis,Dempsey,Marciano,Johnson?

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Originally Posted by mcvey (Post 14270160)

Does this also apply to
Harry Greb,Maxie Rosenbloom, Joe Jeannette, Bob Fitzsimmons, Marvin Hart,Jim Corbett, Peter Jackson,Stan ktchel, Billy Miske, Frank Klaus ,Billy Petrolle , Benny Leonard,Joe Walcott, Joe Gans, etc.?
If so fair enough. But we must then cease matching up classic fighters if that is the criteria.

Not all you mentioned. If I see a fighter in his prime I can make a judgement that I'm happy with.

I don't agree with matching up fighters we've not seen neither.

Colonel Sanders

11-25-2012 08:26 AM

Re: Willsv Louis,Dempsey,Marciano,Johnson?

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Originally Posted by lufcrazy (Post 14270124)

insufficient footage to make any worthwhile pick in my opinion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lufcrazy (Post 14270432)

Not all you mentioned. If I see a fighter in his prime I can make a judgement that I'm happy with.

I don't agree with matching up fighters we've not seen neither.

I have to agree

what have we got to work off, Wills looking sloppy and getting KO'ed by Uzcudun ?

PowerPuncher

11-25-2012 08:32 AM

Re: Willsv Louis,Dempsey,Marciano,Johnson?

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Originally Posted by Johnstown (Post 14270046)

didnt he lose bill tate while in his prime...ehhhh

Not really, he knocked Tate out while punching on the break and was DQ'ed

Quote:

Originally Posted by lufcrazy (Post 14270124)

insufficient footage to make any worthwhile pick in my opinion.

THIS, he could have been Ali and Foreman rolled into 1 or just another Willard

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Originally Posted by mcvey (Post 14270160)

Pretty much although some of those at least have footage, which highlight limitations or strengths

Johnstown

11-25-2012 08:49 AM

Re: Willsv Louis,Dempsey,Marciano,Johnson?

He lost by a DQ...they fought again a few days later...and than he lost a clear decision.

PowerPuncher

11-25-2012 09:22 AM

Re: Willsv Louis,Dempsey,Marciano,Johnson?

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Originally Posted by Johnstown (Post 14270564)

He lost by a DQ...they fought again a few days later...and than he lost a clear decision.

No it was a draw, which was an abberation as he'd knocked Tate out several times already

Johnstown

11-25-2012 07:40 PM

Re: Willsv Louis,Dempsey,Marciano,Johnson?

i stand corrected..either way its something how many damn rematches the guy had with all the top black fighters of his day.

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