Originally Posted by 4eyes (Post 14376790)

I was speaking in terms of conditioning only, example I've trained and fought in Thailand and can attest that at the time I was there (mid 90's) that their conditioning techniques had not changed in decades yet the trainers were top notch in skill teaching and the body mechanics that directly apply to the techniques.

Originally Posted by scrap (Post 14377044)

They may appear to be. but judged by what.

Originally Posted by NVSemin (Post 14377361)

I do not think boxing coaches are so "special" in this sense

Generally, majority of coaches / mentors I met just do not like to innovate / grow / learn themselves. They stick to traditions, rather than logic. This is why there are very few great coaches.

Originally Posted by 4eyes (Post 14376407)

If your happy with his skills teaching then keep him and do what YOU feel is right for you conditioning wise. sounds like you know more about it then he does lol but allot of these guys are good solid skill teachers but just don't know much about conditioning, but if your not happy with the way he is teaching you boxing skills move on

Originally Posted by highguard (Post 14376369)

before i begin my rant lol

i have been boxing for over 10 years with a few different coaches,
i have also done bjj-grappling, wrestling and other martial arts and weight training
so i have been around a bit

but one thing has really annoyed lately with my coach,

why the fcuk does he think that boxing is different and special from other sports..

you tell him whatever
muay thai guys or hockey players or whatever
do this or that for speed or power

the answer is always
well they are not boxers, boxing is different

interesting that in other combat sports i have done
the people and coaches seem to understand that
all combat sports are related and training methods
can be shared, while understanding that all have unique aspects to them.

but not some of these boxing coaches
today he was asking me about my running lately
and another boxer mentioned
circut training,
the answer "that maybe works for mma or wrestlers,
boxers dont need that"

like what the ****, seriously
now this is not a debate about circuts vs running etc
but it looks like some of these coaches dont want to do any research at all

and ofcourse, this guy is anti-weights(thinks anything weight training besides punching with 2 pound weights is BODYBUILDING)
said that even if your threating an injury, NO WEIGHTS

so like many he will tell you the greatness of body weight excerises
but i noticed he doesnt really now much about them
when it comes to proper form,
what is the main muscle being used, which is secondary etc


last week he told my friend
"if you want to build muscle and look good
just run"

my friend is 270 pounds and was concerned with injuring his knees etc
the coach says no no, running will only make things stronger

Originally Posted by 4eyes (Post 14377138)

Don't really know where your going with this? I'm not looking to debate on opinions there has to be another thread on the forum for that? the guy asked a question and I responded with my 0.2$ based on MY experience and MY opinion not speaking for anyone else nor do I deem myself all knowing enough to do so

Originally Posted by dempsey1234 (Post 14378966)

4eyes, you have run into the well known yap pack, who just piss on anything anybody has to say. The yappers are no-talent wanna be's who couldnt get a good coach to even listen to them. They come on here telling everybody that they know and boxing coaches are full of fecal matter and no nothings. Maybe if these yappers knew there was a door to the gym where that useless coach is and that they could use the same door and walk out. It's just that they are frustrated and whining, they havent figured that they can use the same door that they came in to leave, duh!