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brando 12-11-2012 09:17 AM

Marquez: Its my skill not the muscle
 
that knock him out.

True or not?

TheJuggernaut 12-11-2012 09:19 AM

Re: Marquez: Its my skill not the muscle
 
Its both

Smokin' Joe 12-11-2012 09:27 AM

Re: Marquez: Its my skill not the muscle
 
Pacquiao said JMM wasn't hitting any harder than previous fights.

Take that as you will.


There's no question it was skill and timing that set up that KO punch though. Pacquiao ran face first into it.

SugarShane_24 12-11-2012 09:27 AM

Re: Marquez: Its my skill not the muscle
 
Wrong, it's his fist.

BigBone 12-11-2012 09:46 AM

Re: Marquez: Its my skill not the muscle
 
Of course it's skills.

Ramos
http://www.abload.de/img/marqq8ihp.gif

10 days before fight
http://www.abload.de/img/sparring2zcbw.gif

5th round
http://www.abload.de/img/5thi7ors.gif

6th round
http://www.abload.de/img/pack2ovozy.gif

Same move over and over again, slip the jab, counter with the right hand

LeadLeftHook 12-11-2012 09:50 AM

Re: Marquez: Its my skill not the muscle
 
Pacquaio went down in 3rd and he was badly hurt twice in the 5th but of course HBO crew mostly completely ignored Marquez's work. Pacquaio was also hurt earlier in the 6th round.
Since, when has big muscle translated to punching power, if that were the case boxers would be body builders.

Smokin' Joe 12-11-2012 09:51 AM

Re: Marquez: Its my skill not the muscle
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBone (Post 14377774)

The very same punch that knocked Pacquiao out in the 6th round, but didn't in the 5th?!

Does this mean he was taking PEDs between rounds 5 and 6?! :shock::think



:-(

Fucking idiots.

tonys333 12-11-2012 09:54 AM

Re: Marquez: Its my skill not the muscle
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokin' Joe (Post 14377795)
The very same punch that knocked Pacquiao out in the 6th round, but didn't in the 5th?!

Does this mean he was taking PEDs between rounds 5 and 6?! :shock::think



:-(

Fucking idiots.


he seen that punch coming an braced himself thats why it didnt knock him out the reason the punch in the 6th knocked him out was because he didnt see it coming an his momentom took him into it aswell.

Smokin' Joe 12-11-2012 09:56 AM

Re: Marquez: Its my skill not the muscle
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tonys333 (Post 14377810)
he seen that punch coming an braced himself thats why it didnt knock him out the reason the punch in the 6th knocked him out was because he didnt see it coming an his momentom took him into it aswell.

Thankyou, captain obvious.


I was referring to the fools who've been saying that JMM must be on Peds because Pacquiao's been hit with those shots in previous fights and never went down.

BigBone 12-11-2012 10:01 AM

Re: Marquez: Its my skill not the muscle
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokin' Joe (Post 14377795)
The very same punch that knocked Pacquiao out in the 6th round, but didn't in the 5th?!

Does this mean he was taking PEDs between rounds 5 and 6?! :shock::think



:-(

Fucking idiots.

The PEDs were in his nose, and when Pac broke it, they entered into JMM's vasczkar system. Makes sense.

Smokin' Joe 12-11-2012 10:02 AM

Re: Marquez: Its my skill not the muscle
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBone (Post 14377836)
The PEDs were in his nose, and when Pac broke it, they entered into JMM's vascular system. Makes sense.


:lol:

I expect to see a Pactard youtube video about that any time now.

Miguel 12-11-2012 10:04 AM

Re: Marquez: Its my skill not the muscle
 
Pacquiao's over-confidence in finishing the fight and recklessness at that point in the fight was the biggest factor. Then skill. Muscle didn't really come into it, physics took over once that punch was executed

tonys333 12-11-2012 10:05 AM

Re: Marquez: Its my skill not the muscle
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokin' Joe (Post 14377816)
Thankyou, captain obvious.


I was referring to the fools who've been saying that JMM must be on Peds because Pacquiao's been hit with those shots in previous fights and never went down.


:lol: well i just anwsed it to clear it up for them so now they no an i do think people were on abut the shot in the 3rd round tho not the one that knocked him out alot of people we suprised the one in the 3rd round knocked him down but when he got up after that punch he was fine so i dont no why.

klion22 12-11-2012 10:11 AM

Re: Marquez: Its my skill not the muscle
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Miguel (Post 14377849)
Pacquiao's over-confidence in finishing the fight and recklessness at that point in the fight was the biggest factor. Then skill. Muscle didn't really come into it, physics took over once that punch was executed

Yeah, he was completely off balanced and leaning forward when he took that shot. That's something you seldom see from guys like Hopkins or Floyd. They usually have their feet under them and are on balance.

Smokin' Joe 12-11-2012 10:12 AM

Re: Marquez: Its my skill not the muscle
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tonys333 (Post 14377853)
:lol: well i just anwsed it to clear it up for them so now they no an i do think people were on abut the shot in the 3rd round tho not the one that knocked him out alot of people we suprised the one in the 3rd round knocked him down but when he got up after that punch he was fine so i dont no why.

:good


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