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Ne5ville14 01-14-2013 10:46 AM

- ESB Official Gegard Mousasi Train - First stop Gustasfon !!!
 
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So, who in to support the next LHW champion in the UFC before he get the belt ??

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Rob_Floyd 01-14-2013 12:51 PM

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Mousasi has been one of my top five favorite fighters for a couple of years now. I'm just glad we will get to se him consistently fight top competition now.

afterglow 01-14-2013 01:00 PM

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I hope he isn't given a wrestler his first time out. Which is probably what they will give him.

Rob_Floyd 01-14-2013 01:09 PM

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He isn't completely lost against wrestlers. He is very active off his back, and very difficult to control. King Mo is one of the most decorated wrestlers in the sport, and Gegard had more success off of his back than he did on top. He has a guard game similar to Condit's.

Ne5ville14 01-14-2013 01:24 PM

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But at least his wrestling seems to be improving leap and bound !

But yeah he will more lickely be matched with a Wrestler....


I say Phil Davis to begin with !

Koa 01-14-2013 01:31 PM

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Great style, but damn.. Just thinking about it and some ugly matches.. Mousasi's a no frills fearless dude, which means guys like Evans are going to just try to control and smother. Guys already know to do this with him, just a matter of how many can employ it..

Dunno what he could work to force guys to standup with him. The one thing common in a lot of guys who are hard to keep down or take down is explosiveness. Maybe he should try some strength training, American style.

scurlaruntings 01-14-2013 01:41 PM

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Gegard won't be in the UFC long. He's clueless on the mat and just doesn't have the temperament. Nice addition but i just don't see him making any impact at all at 205. Hope i'm wrong though as iv been a fan of his some time and got to meet him once.

greathamza 01-14-2013 01:53 PM

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Gegard vs Shogun to welcome Gegard to the ufc

Rob_Floyd 01-14-2013 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by scurlaruntings (Post 14571849)
Gegard won't be in the UFC long. He's clueless on the mat and just doesn't have the temperament. Nice addition but i just don't see him making any impact at all at 205. Hope i'm wrong though as iv been a fan of his some time and got to meet him once.

But he isn't at all clueless on the mat. I'm confused as to a how a long time fan could think that.

scurlaruntings 01-14-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob_Floyd (Post 14571921)
But he isn't at all clueless on the mat. I'm confused as to a how a long time fan could think that.

I should have been more specific. From his back his always looked way out of his depth to me. How many times have you seen Gegard pull guard.....

Rob_Floyd 01-14-2013 02:07 PM

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You can count on one hand how many guys ever pull guard.

He isn't a ground specialist, but he can certainly hold his own and then some. I actually attribute his poor TDD to perhaps being a little too comfortable off of his back.

Also, he is training with real camps now, rather than basically just ****ing around with friends. His game should look tighter than ever, and hopefully some cardio issues will be resolved.

scurlaruntings 01-14-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob_Floyd (Post 14572003)
You can count on one hand how many guys ever pull guard.

He isn't a ground specialist, but he can certainly hold his own and then some. I actually attribute his poor TDD to perhaps being a little too comfortable off of his back.

Also, he is training with real camps now, rather than basically just ****ing around with friends. His game should look tighter than ever, and hopefully some cardio issues will be resolved.

For as talented a fighter as Gegard is id expect to see him not look like a beetle on his back. His TDD is non-existent. Iv watched that guy get routinely taken down again and again in many fights. Its certainly something he needs to work on if he wants to be successful in the UFC.
On his feet though whomever is at the other end of the Octagon has their work cut out. And that includes Spider.

Rob_Floyd 01-14-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by scurlaruntings (Post 14572017)
For as talented a fighter as Gegard is id expect to see him not look like a beetle on his back.

...but he doesn't. The only fight I can think of where this would even be slightly applicable would be against King Mo. He accepted that there was no way he would be able to stop the takedown, so he tried to just beat him up from his back, and did a pretty good job of it for the most part. It was an awful game plan, admittedly.

He is constantly attacking from his back. That's why I think he ground game is comparable to Condit's.

On top he is a beast when it comes to GnP. He really knows how to put power into his shots.

scurlaruntings 01-14-2013 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob_Floyd (Post 14572052)
...but he doesn't. The only fight I can think of where this would even be slightly applicable would be against King Mo. He accepted that there was no way he would be able to stop the takedown, so he tried to just beat him up from his back, and did a pretty good job of it for the most part. It was an awful game plan, admittedly.

He is constantly attacking from his back. That's why I think he ground game is comparable to Condit's.

On top he is a beast when it comes to GnP. He really knows how to put power into his shots.

I don't disagree with this at all. But i'll remain a skeptic until i see him develop a TDD. And for as long in the tooth he is he should have had that on lock by now.

Flea Man 01-14-2013 02:56 PM

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Like him, have wanted to see him fight the best for a while, but no way is he winning the title.


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