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larryx2012 01-16-2013 02:12 PM

If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo
 
He will be 45-0 and a 9 time champion(should be 10) in 5 divisions and a 4 time linela champion(cause the canelo fight would be for the ring/lineal title)
he'd have wins over

Shane
Oscar
Corrales
Castillo
Ortiz
Marquez
Hatton
Gatti
Cotto
Canelo
Guerrero
Hernendez
Judah


If he pulls this off and retires and stays retired he would have to go down as a top 10-15 all time great and thats being objective,sorry no way around it..name me another fighter who would be 45-0 9 times champion and a 4 time lineal champion..that is unheard of

MVC 01-16-2013 02:13 PM

Re: If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by larryx2012 (Post 14584618)
He will be 45-0 and a 9 time champion(should be 10) in 5 divisions and a 4 time linela champion(cause the canelo fight would be for the ring/lineal title)
he'd have wins over

Shane
Oscar
Corrales
Castillo
Marquez
Hatton
Gatti
Cotto
Canelo
Guerrero
Hernendez
Judah


If he pulls this off and retires and stays retired he would have to go down as a top 10-15 all time great and thats being objective,sorry no way around it..name me another fighter who would be 45-0 9 times champion and a 4 time lineal champion..that is unheard of

Yup 10-15 definitely is where he belongs if he beats Guerrero/Canelo (A beast at 154)

Haters gon hate. :bbb

PBF for life.

PrinceN 01-16-2013 02:14 PM

Re: If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo
 
A lot of hall of famers on that list

Withwhatsmine 01-16-2013 02:15 PM

Re: If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo
 
Ten to fifteen sounds fair I'm not even a Floyd fan but people who hate on him are morons

Bogotazo 01-16-2013 02:16 PM

Re: If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo
 
10-15? No. Obviously not, anyone that doesn't have Floyd's dick in their mouth will tell you the likes of Guerrero and Canelo don't suddenly make you hang with SRL.

MVC 01-16-2013 02:17 PM

Re: If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogotazo (Post 14584651)
10-15? No. Obviously not, anyone that doesn't have Floyd's dick in their mouth will tell you the likes of Guerrero and Canelo don't suddenly make you hang with SRL.

SRL had multiple losses although some ATG quality wins

Was never a 9 time world champion, 4 time lineal champion. Undefeated. Greatest Punchstat record for a fighter.

SRL ranks ahead but Floyd deserves 10-15.

SRL 11, Floyd 14

Bogotazo 01-16-2013 02:18 PM

Re: If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MVC (Post 14584657)
SRL had multiple losses although some ATG quality wins

Was never a 9 time world champion, 4 time lineal champion. Undefeated. Greatest Punchstat record for a fighter.

Who you beat is what matters. SRL beat better fighters. So did a bunch of ATG's.

Bazooka 01-16-2013 02:18 PM

Re: If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by larryx2012 (Post 14584618)
He will be 45-0 and a 9 time champion(should be 10) in 5 divisions and a 4 time linela champion(cause the canelo fight would be for the ring/lineal title)
he'd have wins over

:patsch Lineal cus Canelo took the title from the most feared Jr Middleweight Matthew Hatton

richie leon 01-16-2013 02:19 PM

Re: If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo
 
Gotta take into account his longevity too. Other fighters have won world championship fights 15 or even more years apart. No fighter has EVER done it without sustaining a single blemish on his record, and off the top of my head, no fighter has EVER stayed undefeated over a 17-year stretch in total.

Still not so sure about top-15 ATG though... that's a lot of great fighters you have to top...

Bazooka 01-16-2013 02:20 PM

Re: If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Withwhatsmine (Post 14584647)
Ten to fifteen sounds fair I'm not even a Floyd fan but people who hate on him are morons

Yes you are, just because your original user name was suspended and you have no created an alt that doesnt mean we cant see right through you

MVC 01-16-2013 02:20 PM

Re: If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogotazo (Post 14584663)
Who you beat is what matters. SRL beat better fighters. So did a bunch of ATG's.

But he's had his fair share of losses.

Floyd beat ATGS/HOFS his whole career. 20+ world title fights, and just can't lose.

17 year stretch undefeated

Beat all his contemporaries besides Pacquiao because Pacquiao ducked the SHIT out of him.

I TuCKeR 93 I 01-16-2013 02:22 PM

Re: If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo
 
A great record what could of been better.

richie leon 01-16-2013 02:26 PM

Re: If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bazooka (Post 14584666)
:patsch Lineal cus Canelo took the title from the most feared Jr Middleweight Matthew Hatton

Well the thing is there are no official rules regarding title lineage.
In the case of the 154-pounders, Winky Wright was undiputed champ and left the division without losing that status in the ring, and no fighter since then has definitively estasblished himself as the man at that weight since then..

Wouldn't Mayweather-Canelo be a good fight to re-establish the lineage? Although that only goes as long as one of them beats Trout first, i admit.

duranimal 01-16-2013 02:26 PM

Re: If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo
 
He ducked the biggest fight out there against a midgit:deal

He ducked a DLH re-match:deal

He'll not go down as a legend, far to many *****

He's a fine technician, But?????...see above.

Bogotazo 01-16-2013 02:28 PM

Re: If Floyd retires this year after beating Guerrero and Canelo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MVC (Post 14584680)
But he's had his fair share of losses.

Floyd beat ATGS/HOFS his whole career. 20+ world title fights, and just can't lose.

17 year stretch undefeated

Beat all his contemporaries besides Pacquiao because Pacquiao ducked the SHIT out of him.

Never beat anyone as good as Duran, Hearns, Benitez, or Hagler. So it's irrational to rank him higher.


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