Who is higher in your ATG rankings - Vicente Salvidar or Carlos Ortiz?
 

Vicente Salvidar:
Jose Legra
Howard Winstone
Johnny Famechon
Mitsonori Seki
Sugar Ramos
Ismael Laguna
Famous losses: Eder Jofre, Shibata
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Carlos Ortiz:
Nicolino Locche (yes, Carlos won)
Ismael Laguna
Sugar Ramos
Flash Elorde
Duilio Loi 1 (lost the rivalry)
Other VERY solid contenders
Famous losses: Duilio Loi, Carlos Teo Cruz, (Ken Buchanan doesn't count, Carlos was completely shot), all other losses were avenged


1. Who is higher and
2. Where do you rate the one you rate highest, in your ATG rankings

For me, I am starting to think Carlos Ortiz could be in my Top 50 ATG (near 50 ish).
His only real loss to me, is Ortiz-Loi 3.

Re: Who is higher in your ATG rankings - Vicente Salvidar or Carlos Ortiz?
 

lol no one?

Re: Who is higher in your ATG rankings - Vicente Salvidar or Carlos Ortiz?
 

Ortiz for me.

Re: Who is higher in your ATG rankings - Vicente Salvidar or Carlos Ortiz?
 

Probably Ortiz for me too due to his greater longevity and number of fights. They're both among my very favourites. I might chip in later with something more in depth....

Re: Who is higher in your ATG rankings - Vicente Salvidar or Carlos Ortiz?
 

Ortiz is in the 28-32 bracket for me. Saldivar in the 50-60 I imagine. I'm not sure why they're that far apart though to be honest other than Saldivar's more short and sweet record (and of course the two ace scalps he picked up straight off the bat in his comeback, was competitive with Shibata as well so no shame there, Shibata was super quick) I really, really rate Ortiz mind and have been much more impressed with certain wins on Saldivar's record the more I look into 'em. He's one of the greatest feathers of all time IMO. Ortiz one of the greatest lightweights and has the wins over Locche and Loi.

Re: Who is higher in your ATG rankings - Vicente Salvidar or Carlos Ortiz?
 

I'd out Ortiz 37-30, Saldivar close but below Ortiz in the low forties. Maybe I just like Ortiz too much.