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brown bomber 01-22-2013 08:41 AM

Training for a marathon can I keep muscle gains?
 
Simple question for my more knowledgable amigos on here...

I'm going to do the London marathon in 10 weeks... I've put on about 20 lbs of muscle in recent times and I don't want to lean out. Can I use the same principle of one big strength session a week to retain mass or will I lose a lot of size? Any tips to retain size- also any marathon tips like pace etc..

I've done a 10k in 38 mins with no training I can run really well but this is a different level.

scrap 01-22-2013 08:57 AM

Re: Training for a marathon can I keep muscle gains?
 
Yes, you can

markiepoop 01-22-2013 08:57 AM

Re: Training for a marathon can I keep muscle gains?
 
no advice here but wow 10k in 38min without training is very very fast..

brown bomber 01-22-2013 09:10 AM

Re: Training for a marathon can I keep muscle gains?
 
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Originally Posted by markiepoop (Post 14622771)
no advice here but wow 10k in 38min without training is very very fast..

That's after 2 years inactivity...

brown bomber 01-22-2013 09:11 AM

Re: Training for a marathon can I keep muscle gains?
 
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Originally Posted by scrap (Post 14622770)
Yes, you can

How mate? What would you suggest?

Kraik 01-22-2013 10:40 AM

Re: Training for a marathon can I keep muscle gains?
 
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Originally Posted by brown bomber (Post 14622837)
How mate? What would you suggest?

Finish last.

scrap 01-22-2013 10:58 AM

Re: Training for a marathon can I keep muscle gains?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brown bomber (Post 14622837)
How mate? What would you suggest?

What Ive got in my Shed, makes it happen :D.

gumbo2176 01-22-2013 11:11 AM

Re: Training for a marathon can I keep muscle gains?
 
I've never trained for a marathon but one of the guys I once ran with has done so many times. We would run 5 miles a couple days a week, 6-8 miles one day a week, 10 miles one day and and on Saturday or Sunday he'd run 15 miles for his long training day. He'd take 1 day off after the long run and another whenever he felt he needed a break for a second day a week off.


I only ran 4 days a week and totaled 27-30 or so miles a week. I was lean to begin with and never gained any weight when running, but I never lost any either. When we first began running, he had been doing so for about 6 months and had lost about 30 lbs. and was still heavier than me. That was the main reason he began running------to lose weight. I helped him pick up his pace over the next few months and our distances increased from 3 mile runs to the following.

We would run together at a 6 minute a mile pace up to the 10 mile distance. When he ran the 15 mile distance, he'd cut the pace back to roughly 7 minutes a mile. As far as I can remember, his personal best for the marathon distance was 3 hr.s 40 something minutes and just under, or right at 8 minutes a mile.


I believe it comes down to how hard you train and what time you are trying to achieve. Fact is, the body type for long distance runners is quite lean, almost looking like anorexia. I watched the Kenyan's and Ethiopian's cross the finish line at the Crescent City Classic 10K and those guys are built like match stick figures.

elcasoshaun 01-22-2013 11:15 AM

Re: Training for a marathon can I keep muscle gains?
 
I used to be a fairly decent marathoner until about 2000. I saw lots of very good distance runners with considerable lean mass, in fact a few of the army lads destroyed me in a half marathon and made me see sense about being a weak, ill, over-trained endurance junkie.

dealt_with 01-22-2013 11:16 AM

Re: Training for a marathon can I keep muscle gains?
 
You could keep the same muscle size but the composition of the fibres would change from the training required for a marathon, you'd probably lose a bit of strength and power p4p. You just have to make sure you take in enough calories. When you train in a certain way you also train your body to send more blood to that part of your body being used, so your proportions may change a bit.

dealt_with 01-22-2013 11:16 AM

Re: Training for a marathon can I keep muscle gains?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scrap (Post 14623367)
What Ive got in my Shed, makes it happen :D.

No pedo

scrap 01-22-2013 11:27 AM

Re: Training for a marathon can I keep muscle gains?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dealt_with (Post 14623447)
No pedo

Meaning :D.

dealt_with 01-22-2013 11:43 AM

Re: Training for a marathon can I keep muscle gains?
 
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Originally Posted by scrap (Post 14623507)
Meaning :D.

What you said sounded a bit rapey. I hope I haven't stolen your innocence.

Jdsm 01-22-2013 12:01 PM

Re: Training for a marathon can I keep muscle gains?
 
Should be able to keep most of your muscle size. Resistance training volume can be reduced while still maintaining.

I'd increase protein a bit (nothing excessive) and obviously keep calories high.

scrap 01-22-2013 12:01 PM

Re: Training for a marathon can I keep muscle gains?
 
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Originally Posted by dealt_with (Post 14623597)
What you said sounded a bit rapey. I hope I haven't stolen your innocence.

Impossible :D. I only let close Friends in there.


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