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Gazza 02-05-2013 07:42 AM

Wight lifting
 
I have just started doing weights in between my boxing to get bigger and stronger while i know this is not the best for boxing its something im enjoying at the minute what type of foods should I be eating? any help will be great thanks

Gazza 02-05-2013 08:01 AM

Re: Wight lifting
 
Should be weight lifting

knighty 02-05-2013 12:25 PM

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U can get stronger without getting bigger mate. Forget about getting bigger. Stick to the big 5 ( deadlifts , squats, weighted chins, bench and shoulder press) only do 1 rep max's. u will get stronger , improve nervous system response and stay lean. Only do this one day a week and be carefull with technique and form.

BUMPY KNUCKLES 02-05-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by knighty (Post 14709225)
U can get stronger without getting bigger mate. Forget about getting bigger. Stick to the big 5 ( deadlifts , squats, weighted chins, bench and shoulder press) only do 1 rep max's. u will get stronger , improve nervous system response and stay lean. Only do this one day a week and be carefull with technique and form.

I'd suggest two days for progress, eat healthy as you would normally, plenty of protein, nuts,beans,fish for fats, wholefoods, fruit and veg, water and milk etc... If you want to get bigger then you need a calories surplus.

knighty 02-05-2013 12:35 PM

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Yeah no harm in two days i suppose. Im using the paleo way of dieting at the moment. Excellent for energy levels while staying lean.

viru§™ 02-05-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by knighty (Post 14709225)
U can get stronger without getting bigger mate. Forget about getting bigger. Stick to the big 5 ( deadlifts , squats, weighted chins, bench and shoulder press) only do 1 rep max's. u will get stronger , improve nervous system response and stay lean. Only do this one day a week and be carefull with technique and form.

So you're suggesting doing 1RM for deadlift, squats, weighted chins, bench and overhead press all in a single day? Awful idea. It's a particularly awful idea for an athlete that needs to train for their sport the next day. This training would demolish the guys CNS not improve response. You don't even need to go down to your 1RM to get stronger so I don't know why you're suggesting this.

Also, stay lean from doing 1RM in 5 lifts once a week? Seriously? Where did you get this crap from?

viru§™ 02-05-2013 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gazza (Post 14707862)
I have just started doing weights in between my boxing to get bigger and stronger while i know this is not the best for boxing its something im enjoying at the minute what type of foods should I be eating? any help will be great thanks

What is your routine and why do you want to get bigger? I swear if you post a bodybuilder split I'll fucking slap you through your monitor.

Johnstown 02-05-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by knighty (Post 14709225)
U can get stronger without getting bigger mate. Forget about getting bigger. Stick to the big 5 ( deadlifts , squats, weighted chins, bench and shoulder press) only do 1 rep max's. u will get stronger , improve nervous system response and stay lean. Only do this one day a week and be carefull with technique and form.

ehhhh i dont know about 1 rep maxes..much higher chance of injury and the strength gains really arent there 3 reps to failure should be as low as you go..and make sure you do some warm up sets before that. I like the 5x5 workout myself.

viru§™ 02-05-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnstown (Post 14709550)
ehhhh i dont know about 1 rep maxes..much higher chance of injury and the strength gains really arent there

Only 100% incorrect.

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3 reps to failure should be as low as you go..
If you're using a weight you can only do 3 reps with, it's going to be a fairly heavy weight. Going to failure with heavy weight is just dumb. Also, going to failure is the worst thing you could possibly do when it comes to increasing strength. There's no good reason to ever train to failure.

Johnstown 02-05-2013 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by viru§™ (Post 14709788)
Only 100% incorrect.



If you're using a weight you can only do 3 reps with, it's going to be a fairly heavy weight. Going to failure with heavy weight is just dumb. Also, going to failure is the worst thing you could possibly do when it comes to increasing strength. There's no good reason to ever train to failure.

well isnt a 1 rep max training also training to failure dumb fuck..except you do it in 1 rep, hence put even more one time stress on those body parts?

i am sure you hang out in allot of weight rooms..but fuck your stupid


doing 1 rep maxs as training is dumb and your fucking dumb for suggesting its not dumb

viru§™ 02-05-2013 03:37 PM

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Fuck me, you're so fucking ignorant on the subject it's painful.

I'm not going to waste my time educating you as you go straight to insults when I tell you you're wrong so there's no point.

You don't know as muxh as you think, dumb fuck.

Jake_Lamotta 02-05-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by viru§™ (Post 14709503)
What is your routine and why do you want to get bigger? I swear if you post a bodybuilder split I'll fucking slap you through your monitor.

:lol::thumbsup

Uncle Roger 02-05-2013 10:14 PM

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I'd suggest the Schwarzenegger/Tyson routine

It activates your amino acid absorption receptors increasing l-agrinine protein synthesis in your knees. If you consume 40g of Vitamin C per lb of bone in your body, you will see incredible muscle/strength gains.

This is the routine;

Go to the squat rack in a gym, and do bicep curls with a 10lb dumbell. Do 16.7 reps, rest for a month, and do the same.

then do squats on the treadmill


You're welcome

Johnstown 02-05-2013 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by viru§™ (Post 14710330)
Fuck me, you're so fucking ignorant on the subject it's painful.

I'm not going to waste my time educating you as you go straight to insults when I tell you you're wrong so there's no point.

You don't know as muxh as you think, dumb fuck.

who else in the world suggests doing one rep max as a regular workout?


and yes 3 red to failure does risk injury..i said that is the lowest one wants to go..in general 5 reps is about right.

a 1 rep max is by definition to failure.

El Puma 02-05-2013 11:40 PM

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What. The. Fuck?


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