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shs101 02-12-2013 08:28 PM

unusual feint by Rigondeaux
 
If anyone is a fan of guillermo rigondeaux then you should have noticed this before because he does this in all of his fights and I really dont know why? Some commentators even commented on this but no real insight on it. Its not like a typical feint, he throws a half way punch of some sort (a lot with his straight left) almost in slow motion/half speed...sometimes he comes off with something right after and sometimes not.
A perfect quick example would be right here at around 3:15
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Would this be good to start doing? What are the pros and cons of this? As myself a southpaw, I have a few fights (no begginer) I was looking to add this to my game but first I need to know why he does this

Thats just a quick example but if you watch any of his recent fights he does this thru out the bout

AZ_40 02-12-2013 09:05 PM

Re: unusual feint by Rigondeaux
 
Noticed it but idk...rigo is a g tho

dealt_with 02-12-2013 11:15 PM

Re: unusual feint by Rigondeaux
 
Cuban fighters do it a lot. When an opponent is hesitant to throw, those punches are put out to get the opponent to throw something. So then there is something to counter. It's also used to measure distance and aides with timing.
You want to be careful with it if you're not a quick, reflex sort of fighter.

milkman11 02-12-2013 11:45 PM

Re: unusual feint by Rigondeaux
 
That's his way of feinting. It's like he throws out a half ass measuring stick or lazy jab and left to lure his opponent to bite the bait and then he counters him with a left hand or a real speed one-two. Max Kellerman even said it looks like Rigondeaux is rehearsing his punches during Rigondeaux-Kennedy (I think that's when he said it).

StillWill 02-13-2013 12:00 AM

Re: unusual feint by Rigondeaux
 
He is setting a trap. Looking to make the other guy react to it, and then counter.

Celtic Warrior 02-13-2013 03:26 AM

Re: unusual feint by Rigondeaux
 
Carl Frampton does it quite a bit as well.

As other posters have said its good for measuring distance and drawing leads from opponents - just stay switched on.

MattMattMatt 02-13-2013 03:27 AM

Re: unusual feint by Rigondeaux
 
Without watching the video I would assume it is similar in purpose to the weak jab that Floyd sometimes leads with to get the opponent to react (they often try and counter that jab) but Floyd then performs a pull-counter and lands a real solid jab on an opponent coming forward. I'm sure other fighters do it too, but this was the example that came to mind.

StillWill 02-13-2013 03:34 AM

Re: unusual feint by Rigondeaux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StillWill (Post 14753588)
He is setting a trap. Looking to make the other guy react to it, and then counter.

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Son of Gaul 02-13-2013 04:00 AM

Re: unusual feint by Rigondeaux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dealt_with (Post 14753477)
Cuban fighters do it a lot. When an opponent is hesitant to throw, those punches are put out to get the opponent to throw something. So then there is something to counter. It's also used to measure distance and aides with timing.
You want to be careful with it if you're not a quick, reflex sort of fighter.

:yep

123ko 02-13-2013 07:12 AM

Re: unusual feint by Rigondeaux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StillWill (Post 14753588)
He is setting a trap. Looking to make the other guy react to it, and then counter.


YEP (He is setting a trap) well said ,,its all about the counter shot :deal

Boxmaster 02-13-2013 07:32 AM

Re: unusual feint by Rigondeaux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shs101 (Post 14752915)
If anyone is a fan of guillermo rigondeaux then you should have noticed this before because he does this in all of his fights and I really dont know why? Some commentators even commented on this but no real insight on it. Its not like a typical feint, he throws a half way punch of some sort (a lot with his straight left) almost in slow motion/half speed...sometimes he comes off with something right after and sometimes not.
A perfect quick example would be right here at around 3:15
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Would this be good to start doing? What are the pros and cons of this? As myself a southpaw, I have a few fights (no begginer) I was looking to add this to my game but first I need to know why he does this

Thats just a quick example but if you watch any of his recent fights he does this thru out the bout

He's done it since the amateurs. Whatever it is, it seems to throw people off because they can't see his punches.

Boxmaster 02-13-2013 07:35 AM

Re: unusual feint by Rigondeaux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AZ_40 (Post 14753039)
Noticed it but idk...rigo is a g tho

If you try to time him as a counter puncher when he throws those feints he can counter your counter. Roy Jones used to do stuff like that too, sticking his hands out.

Taylor2010 02-13-2013 07:59 AM

Re: unusual feint by Rigondeaux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StillWill (Post 14753897)

Note elbow after the punch. Dirty tactics blessed by Jesus.

greynotsoold 02-13-2013 09:44 AM

Re: unusual feint by Rigondeaux
 
With any feint, watch what the opponent does immediately after. Or get in the mirror and feint yourself, see what your reaction would be to the feint. That's how you learn what reaction to expect when you do it to somebody else.

123ko 02-13-2013 04:24 PM

Re: unusual feint by Rigondeaux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greynotsoold (Post 14754878)
get in the mirror and feint yourself, see what your reaction would be to the feint. That's how you learn what reaction to expect when you do it to somebody else.


ha ha in the mirror ,,,a feint only works when its not expected ,then you get a reaction ,,you can't feint yourself in the mirror,,thats funny:happy

your probably on about the counter but the man in the mirror don't wonner fight back :rofl


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