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janitor 07-26-2007 09:28 AM

Forgotten great lightweights
 
I do not need to tell anybody here that the lightweight division has an extremely talent rich history.

I think it is a division where all time greats get overlooked due to the low profile of the division and spme never make it due to the level of competition.

So here is a thread devoted to great lightweights who do not get enough exposure. Lets have some names.

mr. magoo 07-26-2007 09:47 AM

Re: Forgotten great lightweights
 
Benny Leonard comes to mind. Although Ray Mancini is mentioned on the forum every now and again, he happens to be one of my favorites as well.

Holmes' Jab 07-26-2007 09:48 AM

Re: Forgotten great lightweights
 
Jack McAuliffe, lack of footage (it being the 19th century an' all) is the main reason. :good

janitor 07-26-2007 10:04 AM

Re: Forgotten great lightweights
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Holmes' Jab
Jack McAuliffe, lack of footage (it being the 19th century an' all) is the main reason. :good

Good choice.

In his day he was regarded as something of a pound for pound Marvel.

Drew101 07-26-2007 10:04 AM

Re: Forgotten great lightweights
 
I wouldn't say Benny Leonard is forgotten. He's generally considered a Top 3 atg lightweight, absolute minimum.

Joe Brown would be my choice.

janitor 07-26-2007 10:12 AM

Re: Forgotten great lightweights
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. magoo
Benny Leonard comes to mind.

If you had asked a panel of boxing writers to produce a list of the greatest lightweights of all when Leonard retired the top 3 would be-

1. Joe Gans
2. Kid Lavigne
3. Benny Leonard

If you did the same today he would still be in the top three and might well take the No1 spot.

This leads me to think that his legend has endured prety well.

jc 07-26-2007 10:25 AM

Re: Forgotten great lightweights
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by janitor
If you had asked a panel of boxing writers to produce a list of the greatest lightweights of all when Leonard retired the top 3 would be-

1. Joe Gans
2. Kid Lavigne
3. Benny Leonard

If you did the same today he would still be in the top three and might well take the No1 spot.

This leads me to think that his legend has endured prety well.

Interesting. i wonder why the aura around the legends of Gans and livigne has decreased then...:think

TBooze 07-26-2007 10:30 AM

Re: Forgotten great lightweights
 
Sammy Angott rarely gets mentioned; another excellent fighter at his best.

Manassa 07-26-2007 10:32 AM

Re: Forgotten great lightweights
 
Willie Joyce. At least the other mentions are in the Hall of Fame.

Stonehands89 07-26-2007 10:41 AM

Re: Forgotten great lightweights
 
Former LW champ Sammy Mandell. He beat McLarnin, Petrolle, and Johnny Dundee.

mr. magoo 07-26-2007 10:44 AM

Re: Forgotten great lightweights
 
Freddy Pendleton is worth a mention

Manassa 07-26-2007 10:56 AM

Re: Forgotten great lightweights
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stonehands89
Former LW champ Sammy Mandell. He beat McLarnin, Petrolle, and Johnny Dundee.

Not to mention Tony Canzoneri.

Stonehands89 07-26-2007 11:12 AM

Re: Forgotten great lightweights
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Manassa
Not to mention Tony Canzoneri.

...and Babe Ruth.

Dempsey1238 07-26-2007 11:51 AM

Re: Forgotten great lightweights
 
Rocky Kansas.

janitor 07-26-2007 12:15 PM

Re: Forgotten great lightweights
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jc
Interesting. i wonder why the aura around the legends of Gans and livigne has decreased then...:think

Probably due to lack of quality footage.


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