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McGrain 07-31-2007 05:59 PM

Langford would beat every incumbant ring champ from 147 to 175
 
Yes or no? We'll use the ring champs I thought:

147 - Floyd Mayweather

154 - Cory Spinks (No.1)

160 - Jermain Taylor

168 - Joe Calzaghe (F*ck it)

175 - Bernard Hopkins.


Some interesting ones.

Some wonderful fighters.

dmt 07-31-2007 06:05 PM

Re: Langford would beat every incumbant ring champ from 147 to 175
 
at his age no way Hopkins beats a peak Sam. Langfords style is all wrong for Calzaghe too. At welter Mayweather has a solid chance to come away with a decision as sam had not peaked when he was at 147

McGrain 07-31-2007 06:22 PM

Re: Langford would beat every incumbant ring champ from 147 to 175
 
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Originally Posted by tobkhan
Well, i disagree with your choice at 154. Sergei Dzinziruk is the best at that weight. Sadly he isnīt even shown on German TV, where he is based. Even here we only get to see some highlights of his fights because he isnīt marketable. Very cautious guy who doesnīt speak English or German.

You have a case, of course, but it's not my choice. Ring's 154 title is vacant, but Spinks is no.1 contendor, so I ran with him.

janitor 07-31-2007 06:28 PM

Re: Langford would beat every incumbant ring champ from 147 to 175
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by McGrain
Yes or no? We'll use the ring champs I thought:

147 - Floyd Mayweather

154 - Cory Spinks (No.1)

160 - Jermain Taylor

168 - Joe Calzaghe (F*ck it)

175 - Bernard Hopkins.


Some interesting ones.

Some wonderful fighters.

Why stop at 175 lbs?

Mormeck would be an easy nights work for him.

I would pick him to beat any of the curent heavyweight beltholders.

McGrain 07-31-2007 06:31 PM

Re: Langford would beat every incumbant ring champ from 147 to 175
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by janitor
Why stop at 175 lbs?

:lol:

Some people are just never happy.

Anyway...answer the question, what do you think about those guys? And if you think he takes them all, tell us how one of them goes, and who has the best chance.

janitor 07-31-2007 07:09 PM

Re: Langford would beat every incumbant ring champ from 147 to 175
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by McGrain
:lol:

Some people are just never happy.

Anyway...answer the question, what do you think about those guys? And if you think he takes them all, tell us how one of them goes, and who has the best chance.

147 - Floyd Mayweather
When Langford was fighting at welterweight he was 18 years old and in the infancy of his profesional career. Amazingly he did beat all time greats like Joe Gans and Joe Walcott but this has to be chalked partly up to the fact that he was bellow their radar at this point and fighting them only days after their previous bout.

If Mayweather knows the level of the threat that he is facing and prepares acordingly then he should be able to win. The Hatton fight should answer a few questions on whether he could stand up to the embryonic Langford.

154 - Cory Spinks (No.1)
Bad news foe Spinks. By now Langford is in his mid 20s and already beating up heavyweights. Spinks is toast.

160 - Jermain Taylor
Same story as with Spinks.

168 - Joe Calzaghe (F*ck it)
Calzaghe might have a chance of edging Langford at this weight especialy if he is part of his hectic schedule. again we would be better able to judge the liklihood of this after the Kesler fight. Whatever the outcome it is probable that Langford would break him down with a sustained body attack.

The 185 lb Langford would make toast out of Calzaghe and anybody listed below.

175 - Bernard Hopkins.
Hopkins might have a chance against the 160lb Langford but at 175 Sam is virtualy unbeatable.

From this weight upward Langfors sweeps the pool today.

McGrain 07-31-2007 07:23 PM

Re: Langford would beat every incumbant ring champ from 147 to 175
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by janitor
175 - Bernard Hopkins.
Hopkins might have a chance against the 160lb Langford but at 175 Sam is virtualy unbeatable.

From this weight upward Langfors sweeps the pool today.


What lhw would you put in with Langford with a view to beating him, all time?

Also, what is it about Langford's game that is enhanced at the heavier weights? In what ways does he grow as a fighter as he grows in weight?

My feeling was always that he was punching hard enough to break backs at 160-175...

Shake 07-31-2007 08:11 PM

Re: Langford would beat every incumbant ring champ from 147 to 175
 
I see plenty of ATG's winning against him LHW and up. Hagler, also.

None of the men you mentioned. I find Langford's defense to be his weakness, and his athletic ability frightening. Foyd might have been able to counter his way to a decision against a young version.

mr. magoo 07-31-2007 08:28 PM

Re: Langford would beat every incumbant ring champ from 147 to 175
 
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Originally Posted by tobkhan
What about Archie Moore?

I suppose it would have to depend on which stage of Moore's career we're talking about, given that he fought pretty much forever. I'm guessing that a prime Moore and a peak Langford would be a very good fight, but I don't know enough about either to choose a winner.

China_hand_Joe 07-31-2007 08:29 PM

Re: Langford would beat every incumbant ring champ from 147 to 175
 
We know next to nothing about Sam, so lets not pick him over Calzaghe -fullstop-

McGrain 07-31-2007 08:35 PM

Re: Langford would beat every incumbant ring champ from 147 to 175
 
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Originally Posted by China_hand_Joe
We know next to nothing about Sam, so lets not pick him over Calzaghe -fullstop-


We know some of the guys he was in with, we have some footage.

mr. magoo 07-31-2007 08:35 PM

Re: Langford would beat every incumbant ring champ from 147 to 175
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by China_hand_Joe
We know next to nothing about Sam, so lets not pick him over Calzaghe -fullstop-

Correction,

YOU may know nothing about Sam Langford, therefore YOU, should use discretion about how you determine the outcomes to various fantasy matchups. I don't know much about him myself, but then I'm also not telling others what they should think either.

Oh I almost forgot, -Fullstop-

Shake 07-31-2007 08:47 PM

Re: Langford would beat every incumbant ring champ from 147 to 175
 
BORKED

janitor 08-01-2007 05:45 AM

Re: Langford would beat every incumbant ring champ from 147 to 175
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by China_hand_Joe
We know next to nothing about Sam, so lets not pick him over Calzaghe -fullstop-

We know next to nothing about how Calzaghe would fare against another all time great so lets not pick him over Langford -fullstop-

China_hand_Joe 08-01-2007 05:50 AM

Re: Langford would beat every incumbant ring champ from 147 to 175
 
So how does Langford beat Calzaghe then -questionmark- Why should I ignore the considerable doubt about Langfords chances in this fight and pick him -fullstop-


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