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Russell 08-01-2007 11:15 AM

Who's got the least technique but the most...
 
Power?

Basically, people who just threw wild, completely non-textbook punches but still killed guys.

Foreman's not the roughest, he's shown the fundamentals at times... But he's also looked really, really out of place throwing those bombs at times.

Thoughts?

ChrisPontius 08-01-2007 11:27 AM

Re: Who's got the least technique but the most...
 
Every era has their "tank" kind of fighter: a very heavy handed slugger with not the best technique, and great chin which gives a fighter almost impossible to move or back up.
George Foreman, Samuel Peter, Luis Firpo, Tony Galento, etc.

cross_trainer 08-01-2007 11:32 AM

Re: Who's got the least technique but the most...
 
Galento, probably. Maybe Baer.

MacManJr. 08-01-2007 11:33 AM

Re: Who's got the least technique but the most...
 
Mayorga
Darchinian
Peter (even though he's getting better)
Miranda

FlatNose 08-01-2007 11:45 AM

Re: Who's got the least technique but the most...
 
Don't forget the 130 lb. from Venezuala, with 18 first round kayos in 23 fights, Valero.He swings like a barn door.

Tony 08-01-2007 03:11 PM

Re: Who's got the least technique but the most...
 
Prince Naseem Hamed.

A while back, somebody posted a topic on picture-perfect fighters, and we talked about how many photos of Joe Louis landing heavy punches looked posed because he was in such textbook position.

Hamed was the exact opposite -- in plenty of pictures, he looks like a spastic drunk -- arms and legs every which way. From those pictures, if you didn't know who he was, you'd never believe that he was a pro, or a winner.

China_hand_Joe 08-01-2007 03:13 PM

Re: Who's got the least technique but the most...
 
Carlos Maussa -fullstop-

bladerunner 08-01-2007 03:27 PM

Re: Who's got the least technique but the most...
 
Rocky Graziano.

KTFO 08-01-2007 04:58 PM

Re: Who's got the least technique but the most...
 
Butterbean

janitor 08-01-2007 05:07 PM

Re: Who's got the least technique but the most...
 
Galento.

Fans like Amsterdam have criticised his technique with some justification.

He got as far as No4 ranked contender with almost all his wins coming by knockout.

Try to find a fighter who has a higher percentage of his total wins coming by knockout or a lower percentage coming by decision.

"Nobody ever hit me harder than that fat little man"

Joe Louis

"I watched Galento hit the heavy bag and he seemed to hit it harder than Sonny Liston"

Journalist who saw both hit the heavy bag.

enquirer 08-01-2007 05:51 PM

Re: Who's got the least technique but the most...
 
Julian jackson and john mugabi both have a very high % of wins being knockouts,and a very low % of points wins. They were also stopped in their losses a lot...Maybe shavers?

Vantage_West 08-01-2007 08:09 PM

Re: Who's got the least technique but the most...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony
Prince Naseem Hamed.

A while back, somebody posted a topic on picture-perfect fighters, and we talked about how many photos of Joe Louis landing heavy punches looked posed because he was in such textbook position.

Hamed was the exact opposite -- in plenty of pictures, he looks like a spastic drunk -- arms and legs every which way. From those pictures, if you didn't know who he was, you'd never believe that he was a pro, or a winner.

:huh mate his lef thand was so stright what he finished kelley with is maybe the best jab,cross i have ever seen

Vantage_West 08-01-2007 08:10 PM

Re: Who's got the least technique but the most...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by enquirer
Julian jackson and john mugabi both have a very high % of wins being knockouts,and a very low % of points wins. They were also stopped in their losses a lot...Maybe shavers?

but jackson technique was very crisp he just wasnt much in chin and stamina shame if he was trained by a different trainer i would see a ver ydifferent fighter with better speed and more movement maybe less power but his power is p4p best

mcvey 08-01-2007 08:29 PM

Re: Who's got the least technique but the most...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russell
Power?

Basically, people who just threw wild, completely non-textbook punches but still killed guys.

Foreman's not the roughest, he's shown the fundamentals at times... But he's also looked really, really out of place throwing those bombs at times.

Thoughts?

Max Baer,Lew Jenkins,Stanley Ketchel,Yvon Durelle,Leo Lomski.

enquirer 08-02-2007 03:51 PM

Re: Who's got the least technique but the most...
 
Yes jacksons punching was very crisp,smooth and with great pop,i was just replying to the poster who said most of galentos wins were by ko,and i said that applied to jackson and mugabi as well....


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