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Old 10-04-2011, 07:41 AM   #31
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Default Re: Toney vs wlad 2012. In USA

Originally Posted by Robney View Post
Come on... Let's say he beats Lebedev (wich I don't believe) it would be his biggest win in many years, but it's a non title Cruiserweight bout.
Toney still won't be in HW contender status after that, so he has to beat another opponent first and with Toney's current activity it means the fight would happen no earlier as the end of 2012 (with James being 44 by then).
Toney would certainly get top-15 HW rating for some organizations, if he beats top-3 cruiserweight in the world and moves back up to HW.
So he wouldnt need to have an another match before the title shot.

Originally Posted by Robney View Post
The only reason Toney could hang in there with sub top Heavies until now is his technical ability, experience and incredible chin.
That's also probably the reason why people here see him beat a crude puncher like Lebedev, walking trough a couple of big shots that drop most guys from that weight and edging out a decision. Wich might be true, but now imagine him taking that shots from Wlad for 9 or 10 rounds. The man can't put together even one clear sentence now, what would such an onslaught do to the guy?
Wlad wouldn’t be able to hit him with his power punches cleanly and would be very cautious when he would fight counter puncher of Toneys caliber.
Toney would at least make it a closer fight, than most of the Wlads opponents could.

Of course fighting Povetkin for the title first would be better idea in my mind, than going straight to Wlad after Lebedev.
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