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Old 07-08-2007, 04:33 PM   #34
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Default Re: Ali vs Foreman : 2

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Originally Posted by Stonehands89
"Corner Men" and "In the Corner" are two must-haves. Especially the latter. I loved the treatment of Blackburn in it.

Do you remember what they called Arcel during the "bum of the month" days? The Meat Wagon. I found that hilarious and can picture poor Ray dragging Louis's latest victim across the mat with that eternal Q-Tip hanging of his lip. Arcel's record against Joe suggests more a problem of raw materials than expertise... Mickey Duff played Micky the Dunce against Hagler after all, but look at what he was up against!

As for Foreman, he stuck with Archie Moore during the early part of his comeback and I always thought that it was not the greatest match. Incidentally, I never thought highly of that crab defensive style. I don't think it worked well for Foreman, Norton, or even Moore himself. It inhibited the ability to counter quickly and was full of gaping holes.
"In the Corner" by Dave Anderson has been on my acquision list. Coming from you Stonehands, that is indeed high praise. I never thought George had the reflexes to carry off the crab defense that Archie had. I could understand how it might be effective for a short boxer trying to defend against uppercuts, but George was too tall for that to be practical. Archie did sustain an awfully long and busy career with it though, and never displayed any issues with brain damage. (I loved it, when during a prefight staredown, Archie would give his charge's opponent the evil eye right along with his boxer. This was especially entertaining before Eddie Mustafa Muhammad's match with Snipes. Staring down one set of eyes is one thing, but two?)

Arcel always spoke highly about Louis, and how, during pre-fight instructions, Joe would see Ray and say, "What, you here again?" Great anecdotes.
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