Originally Posted by BlackBrenny
Then we can wait a while BEFORE jumping the gun and putting him before Calzaghe, because right now he doesn't win.
I didn't say at the end of Wards career he couldn't be ahead of Calzaghe, just that right now he ISN'T. No way
fact is, wins over Abraham and Green do not beat wins over a CHAMPION in Lacy, these guys were never supermiddleweight champs, Lacy was, and he was favoured
Its too early to say he has surpassed Joe but he's fought the better comp in a shorter amount of time .
Outside of Hopkins who else does he have ?Froch is better than most of those opponents you mentioned including Lacy by a country mile
That Lacy being favored crap only worked with the fan boys .