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Old 07-09-2012, 01:18 PM   #17
achillesthegreat
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Default Re: Tito Ortiz, where do you rank him in LHW history

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Originally Posted by Kittikasem View Post
Aren't you effectively just saying "imagine he was a better fighter than he actually was" though?
Not really because I highlighted what he lacked in making the "just imagine" reality.

I think he did have serious issues with divorcing, issues with jenna, neck injuries, falling out with dana etc but often felt like they were excuses to hide the fact he wasn't really good enough in terms of fitness or skills.

I think once his double take down/gnp was figured out by a new era of more complete fighters he struggled big time. He evolved some in his submission defence, submission attacks etc but it never made up for the fact he wasn't very fast, wasn't very powerful and perhaps strength/short arms was his true ability but the he lacked the fitness to ever look good for long periods of time.
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