Originally Posted by salty trunks
The analogy is looking great against shit fighters is meaningless.
McNeely and Jackson weren't shit.
And looking great agaisnt sub par competition is what Ruddock and Tyson made a career of, unforunately. Now when they started looking average against sub par competition and there was evidence of badly diminished abilities, than we can start talking about fighters being "ruined"
A ruined fighter is "shit". If you are shit, you are going to look like shit, even if its against other shit.
And if beating Jackson in the usual manner he beat overmatched opponents isn't evidence Ruddock was still capable for you, than you are going to have provide evidence that Ruddock was ruined.