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Old 07-23-2012, 06:10 PM   #13
BillB
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Default Re: 'Why I Took A Dive' by Sonny Liston

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Originally Posted by Senor Pepe' View Post
Many facts,,

Number 1.

There were no other 'money fights out there. Nobody was willing to pay any decent money to see Sonny versus;
a) Eddie Machen
b) Floyd Patterson III
c) Cleveland Williams III
d) Ernie Terrell
e) Zora Folley
f) Robert Cleroux or George Chuvalo (Canadian Crop)
g) Doug Jones, Zora Folley or Billy Daniels
h) Willie Pastrano (Light-Heavyweight Champion)
i) Harold Johnson (35 year-old Light-Heavyweight)
j) European Heavyweights (Henry Cooper, Brian London or Karl Mildenberger)

The 'only' money fight out there was with Ingemar 'Ingo' Johansson', and he had retired.

The 'smart play' for Sonny, who had outstanding debts to pay off and reimburse those who covered
him for many years, was to lose in a 'controversial way', and then cash in on the rematch, before getting
out of boxing.
I agree those fights were fixed. A person would have to be very naive to know Liston's ring record and believe he lost those two fights they way he did.

Do you think Clay knew they were fixed or was he just along for the ride?
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