Re: Lyle vs Liston
Lyle exposed young Formans limitataions against a simular sized heavyweight puncher with heart, but he did not win that fight, nor was he ever champion. Ron may very well have beaten most of the smaller men Liston fought but he is over rated against champions. strong contender though he was lyle was mastered by quarry - another strong contender who must be higher regarded than Lyle.
Liston in 1960-62 was an ATG but it was not for long. That Liston beats Lyle. After 1961 Liston never won a competative fight. His size advantage in the 1950s was canceled out and he got older. Post 1964 Lyle has a real chance, he might not win but he could have an edge over sonny after that point in his career.