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Old 08-01-2012, 03:40 AM   #46
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Default Re: Who had the better Career Resume...Liston or Johnson

Originally Posted by mcvey View Post
Chris, Langford scaled 156lbs for Johnson ,if we take his best weight as around 175/180lbs,that is 20/24 lbs below his best weight.

Johnson scaled 189lbs,Johnson said he was in the shape of his life for the Jeffries fight, he scaled 208lbs for that so 19lbs below his optimum weight.

Factor in that Langford was the more experienced fighter,with over 50 fights under his belt.

Harry Wills gets a ton of credit for beating a porky, 39 years old Langford, yet Johnson is castigated for beating a younger version.

When Johnson absolutely dominated McVey, before koing him in the last round, McVey had allready stopped names like Kid Carter,Fred Russell and Denver Ed Martin..

McVey was no middle either ,he scaled 207 to Johnson's 190lbs

Jeannette was 26 when he first fought Johnson and ,27 for their last encounter.I think it's safe to assume he had pubic hair.

Jeffries was past it , but whose fault was it they did not meet in their primes?
Just to add to this. When Johnson lost to one of the worst HW champs ever it was against 240lb HW over a grueling 45 round contest in the beating sun. Not to mention Johnson was 37 years old. In the 1900's 37 year old was ancient in boxing terms. Not even with some bad arithmetic and exaggerated guesswork was Liston 37 years old by the time of the first Ali fight.
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