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Old 08-01-2012, 05:39 PM   #65
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Default Re: Who had the better Career Resume...Liston or Johnson

Originally Posted by SuzieQ49 View Post
The 6 best Liston beat

6'3 215lb Cleveland Williams 2x
6'3 212lb Nino Valdes
6'4 202lb Mike Dejohn
6'3 215lb Henry Clark
6'0 204lb Wayne Bethea

Williams was rated # 10, DeJohn # 7, Bethea # 9, Clark # 7, and Valdes was rated # 2 earlier that year.

On film, some of these guys display tremendous punching power and look much more advanced skill wise than the big men Jack Johnson fought

Who were Johnson's best?

Frank Moran? Terrible. A gooftrooper.
James Jeffries? Coming off a 6 year layoff
Sandy Fergusson?
Sam McVea? Had his ***** even dropped yet?
Tony Ross?
Tom Cowler?
Put whatever spin on it you wan't.

The bottom line is that Johnson fought a lot more guys over 200lbs, and a lot more fighters over 200lbs who were top 10 material at the time.

Playing the size card for Liston here is digging yourself into a hole.
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