Originally Posted by Vic-JofreBRASIL
Well..Generally, Liston was also always with a big size advantage in his fights.....
Folley, Machen, Patterson...they were that big ?
I donīt rate Johnson too high like many, because IMO his title defenses were poor, but Liston didnīt have even that....He beat a smaller Patterson with all the style advantages on his favor and then lost soundly against Ali...thatīs it.
If you wanna make a case to Machen, Folley or Williams as greater HWs than Jeanette, McVey or even that version of Langford....then itīs okay with me, but I wouldnīt feel confortable with it...
Well, Johnson also had a size, age, and weight advantage in many of his fights. While its true Liston did not make many title defense, he pretty much cleaned out the division before getting a shot, then faced a young Ali. I don't think Johnson would defeat the Ali that Liston fought either.
I may be the only one here who thinks this, but Johnson's victory over a 20 year old 156 pound Langford wasn't special. That Langford would not last 6 rounds with Liston.