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Old 08-08-2012, 11:28 PM   #33
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Default Re: How would JDS beating Overeem and Cormier compare to Fedor beating Nog and CC?

Originally Posted by Kittikasem View Post
Couture at HW?

Wins - Sylvia, Gonzaga, Rizzo (twice), Randleman, Belfort, Smith

Losses - Barnett, Rodriguez, Lesnar, Nogueira


I'm not so sure that he is a lock for 5th spot as you do. That record (IMO) doesn't put him so far clear of the competition. Right now, Cigano's record is much better than that, for starters.

Consider someone like Werdum...

Wins - Fedor, Overeem, Aleks Emelianenko, Bigfoot, Gonzaga (twice), Nelson

Losses - Nogueira, Kharitonov, Arlovski, JDS, Overeem

IMO, Werdum has not only beaten slightly better fighters overall, but he has more wins in that division, and doesn't lose anything to Couture in terms of his losses as both Werdum and Couture only ever lost to other top fighters.
I gave Werdum's resume a glance over, and there is nothing there to change my mind. I have a lot of respect for Werdum, and he may go on to take the position where I currently have Couture; but I can't say he deserves it at this point.

I don't think that Werdum lost to Overeem in their rematch, but that still doesn't do it for me. I've been highly critical of Overeem's mma career. I respect Overeem's abilities, but he is no where near being an all time great in mma.

I don't count Werdum's performance against Silva as a big win. I didn't see anyone winning that boring affair. That fight was horrible. The fight also drove me crazy because either fighter could have won it by throwing the jab. Big Foot kept trying these uppercuts from a stupid range when all he had to do was jab Werdum in the face. That fight may have well been a draw.

I'm sticking with Randy on this one. Werdum is still active. He could go on to change my mind. I'm sure that is what he thinking about.
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