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Old 09-22-2012, 11:30 AM   #34
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Default Re: Dana going off on one!!! LOL

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Originally Posted by Atlanta2 View Post
Irrelevant. Nobody tunes in to see Dana White when they pay for an MMA PPV or watch it on TV. Nobody, except maybe you.

Quite the opposite, he can make as much money as he pleases and i encourage him to do so. Just don't be upset when someone else who is also a business man with their interests negotiate from that position.

Yes he can.

Super. Doesn't change the fact that Jon Jones, nor any MMA fighter, owes one bit of reverence to Dana White nor should take a haircut for the UFC in demanding every penny the market declares they are worth. Do you think for one second Dana White would deal with the 'evil' of Jones and Jackson if he thought he wasn't making money on the arrangement? He's just upset that he isn't making even more.

Once again, irrelevant.

No, I don't participate in hero worship like you. He's a business man and made a business decision. He gets as much praise from me as any other successful business person. He saw a opportunity to make money and he capitalized.

No, he gives what he thinks will make him money. If another promotion was to rocket up the relevancy ladder with a young Light heavyweight champion who's blasting guys out like Jon Jones, do you think he would entertain a Co-Promotion to make that fight even if its what the fans wanted? No he wouldn't because it would not make him as much money on a deal that he desired.


That's great that they cover medical expenses. Doesn't change one thing about the issue of the canceled card. Dana White wanted Jon Jones to take a haircut to carry his **** poor fight card and he wanted him to get essentially jumped by having to fight Sonnen who knew well before Jones did that Hendo was not going to fight and was training.

If Dana wants to grow the UFC in that manner. More power to him. But make it worth Jon Jones' business instead of expecting charity via taking a financial haircut on what he should be earning.

If he's expected to do the most work by carrying entire cards by himself, then he deserves to make the most money.

Yes spoiled because for taking punches and kicks to the head, they want to make as much money as possible for trading brain cells for cash. Finances dictates who faces who in the UFC, just like in boxing.

Now you are talking to yourself I don't give a **** about if someone earns a $5K per fight minimum or $5M. They, the fighters, should be businessmen and earn as much per fight as the market dictates just like the UFC tries to make off of them. If Anderson Silva is worth $10M a fight, he should earn $10M a fight.

No. There are plenty of boxers that fight in Europe because they can earn more there, same in Australia, I would imagine. If Dana White really cares about growing the brand why should Jon Jones take a haircut on the issue? Why can't Dana, he and the Mafia bros own the company and therefore have the most to gain 10, 20, and 30 years down the road, none of the fighters around today have any benefit of those gains coming to fruition and therefore should not consider taking the haircut. If Dana White wants him to take haircuts for the long term growth of the UFC make him party to the long term growth by making him a co-owner of the UFC/Zuffa.


As much as he possibly can.
No it existed and was doing okay in Japan, not as well as now but he would have had a market to go to if he so chose.


So. Its now, not 2 years ago.


So it was Dana white that hopped in the ring and broke Brandon Vera's face, turned Matyushenko's head into a basketball, dominated Bader, and then ran over the top 5 fighters in the division like they were tissue paper. All Dana White's doing right? no Jones got to where he was because of Jones. The UFC allowed him to perform because they saw talent and realized it would be good for their financial well being to have young blood in the sport. He's delivered on his end of the bargain. If he wasn't what the UFC wanted he would have been cut or he would be fodder for another up and comer like Vera is.

So rich people can't get ripped off? No it isn't enough. Jones is in the business of getting hit in the head, if he thinks he can earn a nickel more for his services he should get that nickel if the market agrees. And judging by the fact Dana didn't cut him, is the case that Zuffa is blowing a lot of smoke.



Neither one owes the other anything other than what the maximum they can get out of each other. If Jon Jones doesn't sell do you think for one second the UFC would give a **** about cutting him? He could be the nicest guy in the world and suck up to Dana from now to the day he dies and Dana White would cut him if he didn't make the UFC money and Jon Jones should be willing to leave the UFC by some mismanagement they stop being lucrative venture.


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