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Old 09-29-2012, 05:41 PM   #62
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Default Re: Rocky Marciano vs. Sonny Liston

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Originally Posted by McGrain View Post
Larry Holmes named Sonny Liston the best jabber in HW history. This, alone, illustrates the threadbare logic you are employing here.
I have threadbare logic because Larry Holmes says Liston (who he never met) was the best jabber in history?
Did or did not Muhammad ali say a middle age Rocky Marciano was hard to hit with a jab?
Liston had a great HARD jab. Ali had a faster more accurate jab than Liston.
If Ali (who not only met Marciano but did friendly sparring with Marciano) who as you say yourself repeatedly countered Liston says Rocky is hard to hit with the jab why is it thread bare logic to agree? If Ali had trouble jabbing Marciano anybody would have trouble jabbing Rocky. This would include Liston.
 
 
 
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Originally Posted by McGrain View Post
The notion that he would slip 90% of these jabs is...an absolutely exceptional presumption.
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Because Ali did not know what he was talking about? Or because you find it absolutely exceptional that it is not what you want to hear?
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Originally Posted by McGrain View Post
The notion that Liston is repeatedly countered on his jab is based upon what? Almost nobody ever did it aside from Ali,
Yet Ali found Marciano hard to hit with the jab. .Marciano countered wallcot, he countered great fighters why cant he (if he is hard to hit with a jab) counter Liston when the man drives forward like liston does?
 

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