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Old 09-30-2012, 07:58 PM   #61
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Default Re: Boxers Prime years

Originally Posted by Ripper11 View Post
or maybe you've never actually seen him fight?

Watch Mike in his prime how he would jab his way inside instead of just walking forward or swinging for the fences. Or he'd slip Holmes's punches to get closer.
Larry did fairly well at first too and Mike wasn't having too much success, but he was still doing the basic things Cus and Rooney taught to him.

Mike in his prime tried to break you down to the body and throw combinations constantly. Mike used to be one of the best combination punchers in boxing history, but he wasn't known for that after prison or his amazing headmovement.

Only somebody blind or a hater can't see this
Yes,he looked awesome against this over the hill version of Holmes who was semi retired.

Lewis's win over Holyfield(twice really) was better than anything Tyson ever did. Deal with it.

Spinks had a grand total of 4 fights at heavyweight.

If Tysons win over Ruddock was better than Lewis's win over Vitali, then what about Lewis destroying Ruddock a year later in much more dominating fashion.

Listen, I know Tyson was a fine fighter. Probably the most dynamic of heavyweights there has been, but he was never as good as his fans made him out to be, and Prime Lewis vs Prime Tyson, Lewis wins every time. Its like Lewis said in the interview on this site. Tyson only knew one way to fight, he had to come forward,jab,weave,get inside and KO you. He could outbox people because he was too short. Did you ever see Tyson dance around the ring flicking out the jab? Of course not, he didnt have the physical tools to do it. His feet were quite slow in the sense of moving around the ring. Lewis on the other hand had the tools to do everything.

Whe Tyson was looking amazing in the late 80s and even when he first came out of prison, he NEVER fought anyone like Lewis, so shoing me clips of these fights are meaningless. There was no one like Lewis back then.

A prime Holmes,maybe but not the old one coming off 2 losses that Tyson beat.

Its easy to say,he would have ducked,weaved,jabbed, but Tyson never had to go into a ring with anyone like Lewis back then. Its easy to look like a superstar when the opposition is sub standard.

The 90s had a pretty stacked heavyweight division. Tyson came through in a pretty mediocre one on the mid to late 80s.

He won his titles from Trevor Berbick, James Smith and Michael Spinks.

None of these guys would even be considered in the top top 50 of all time heavyweights, maybe not even in the top 100.

Spinks was a good LHW.

Holyfield however, would prob be a top 20 all time heavyweight. Vitali too.

The only all time ranked heavyweight that Tyson beat was Larry Holmes and he was way past it.

I dont want to come off like im bashing Tyson. Im simply saying there was no shame in being beaten by Holyfield who was a top fighter.

The fact was that Tyson was made out to be this unstoppable wrecking machine that he just wasnt. And the Holyfield fights were a wake up call for his fans as to what his true level was.

Lets be clear,I love watching those Tyson KO highglights as much as the next man!

Last edited by irishny; 09-30-2012 at 08:09 PM.
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