Originally Posted by IntentionalButt
Read again, I never called Lara mediocre.
I called him decent, same tier as Molina, which seems pretty fair.
...and how isn't Canelo among the elite?
Yeah you can group him with Molina considering the result but i do think his talent level is clearly above most in that group and his near shutout win over Williams is better than anything Canelo has done. Canelo does look good but his hasn't done anything to put himself clearly above the rest at 154 to be considered a level above them.
Baysangurov would be the level of most those guys too. He beat a prime Rubio at his prime weight in only his 14th pro fight and that is arguably Chavez's best win along with Lee. K9 can punch and got him with a perfect temple shot that took his legs, he was up but just wobbly, shit happens and he's come back nicely.