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Old 10-07-2012, 08:15 PM   #10
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Default Re: How were old timers so good?

Originally Posted by Butch Coolidge View Post
The old timers weren't better. Watch the documentaries of Basilio Against the Mob and Jim Braddock "Cinderella Man". Basilio states in the doc about him that he didn't bother getting a trainer until he was several years into his professional boxing career. Braddock was a top light heavyweight for a while without ever developing any skill with his left hand. However, after breaking his right hand he was forced to train only his left for a while thus becoming a two-handed fighter that could win, something that virtually all top professional fighters of today are. Max Baer, the heavyweight champion, seldom threw a left hand. Also, just looking at some of the old timers footwork I'm reminded of watching a karate class.

The main thing that makes the old timers better is their press clippings.

I cannot see how the elimination of racial segregation in boxing, the reduction of mob control in boxing and the inclusion of the former USSR in professional boxing has made boxing "weaker". Also, no longer having one kingpin promoter like Don King or Tex Rickard increases the quality of professional boxing. Even the presence of MMA makes boxing better because people have other choices rather than watch some dog **** boxing match. Now you better have a GOOD boxing contest card.
Braddock was tough, fought injured for a long time, and would whip probably ever fighter post 2000. Boxing outside of welter is very weak right now on a whole. And even the top welter's likeCanelo are just expert tomato crushers, beating up guys who have no business being in a ring. And while Floyd is talented, am I to be impressed watching him crush ortiz tomatoes or fighters who it appears he pays off (emm emm Mosely- clinching a guy who your hurt). Max baer may have one hand, but he'd probably kill someone like klitschko if K's people would ever agree to fight him. The heavyweight division is probably the most disgraceful excuse for boxing I've ever seen. Klitschko is a talented fighter no doubt. And I can't blame him for crushing tomatoes because he is in a tomato field.
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