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Old 10-08-2012, 05:56 AM   #7
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Default Re: Is there an argument that the great boxers from the past...

Originally Posted by Hands of Iron View Post

Anthony, you deserve so much better.

It's kind of a tricky question to answer as I think there are pros and cons to both. To keep it concise, at the end of the day I think the old timers (sort of eyeing the 30s-50s in particular) were greater and reached higher levels due to almost constantly having to challenge themselves against the best opposition available while being in almost perpetual fighting shape. These days, just having two top rated fighters get in the ring is looked at as treat where as back then this was the norm, and there were far fewer divisions in which to be 'rated' without any easy-out trinket straps to stage **** 'title defenses' for. The downside is that when you are learning and honing your skills and ability on the job, fighting name opponents regularly, you're going to pick up a few losses for your troubles especially fighting on the type of schedules they did to earn a living. W-L ratios it would seem have gradually come to be ever so significant in the recent modern climate.
Originally Posted by Skittlez View Post
Boxing IS experience. There is only so much to learn, actually: How to punch, how to move, how to block and parry, and when to punch. The rest of it is comfort, awareness, presence, conditioning, and all that lovely stuff that 99% of men can only get through rounds. Sparring serves this purpose some, but ultimately, to get a true comfort level and a solid identity as a prizefighter, you need to prizefighter.

Archie Moore, as an overall athlete, doesn't look all that impressive on film. But he is a perfect technician; He dictates fights in every sense. That is experience, grit, and a steely mind that people still talk about. I've heard old timers say that when you sat ringside at a Moore fight, you watched his eyes, his feet, and his waist, and you saw artistry.

This is, in fact, what boxing is actually about, and this mindset is dying out.
Quality posts. Can't say I disagree with any of it.
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