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zadfrak · 10-09-2012, 07:09 AM

The big big factor though is Julio at Welter. There are lots of guys he just does not match up well against in such a tough tough division. I think 140 is where it ends for him and at 147 is just a huge step to take and past the tipping point. Whole different talent level at welter through the history of that division.

I sure didn't think he had any chance whatsoever against Trinidad back then. None. That left hook would have presented a ton of problems for Chavez to try absorbing round after round. Or absorbing a Hearns shot at 147 for that matter. It's just asking a whole lot more than Frankie Randall crisp right hands at 140 or what, Roger Mayweather right hands years earlier?

Cuevas was a legitimate wrecking machine at welter. I'm sure him moving up in weight subtracts from his effectiveness as well--as a middle it'd be above average perhaps, but not elite as a punch at 160.

10-09-2012, 07:09 AM	#25
zadfrak Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,108 vCash: 1000	Re: Peak Chavez vs Pipino Cuevas. The big big factor though is Julio at Welter. There are lots of guys he just does not match up well against in such a tough tough division. I think 140 is where it ends for him and at 147 is just a huge step to take and past the tipping point. Whole different talent level at welter through the history of that division. I sure didn't think he had any chance whatsoever against Trinidad back then. None. That left hook would have presented a ton of problems for Chavez to try absorbing round after round. Or absorbing a Hearns shot at 147 for that matter. It's just asking a whole lot more than Frankie Randall crisp right hands at 140 or what, Roger Mayweather right hands years earlier? Cuevas was a legitimate wrecking machine at welter. I'm sure him moving up in weight subtracts from his effectiveness as well--as a middle it'd be above average perhaps, but not elite as a punch at 160.
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