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Old 10-09-2012, 10:14 AM   #23
MadcapMaxie
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Default Re: sonny liston vs jack johnson.....

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Originally Posted by Webbiano View Post
Don't get me wrong, I can see arguments against it, but a very young Johnson getting stopped doesn't mean to much to me. It seems people only bring up an early career KO loss if they are subjectivity against that fighter and doesn't fit their agenda. Do people say jimmy young has chin issues because he was stopped by shavers very early on?? Also on the Ketchel fight I don't see much revelance, but that is just my opinion. I can't honestly see how that fight wasn't being carried. Ketchel although being 160 pounds still hit like a mule, and I don't think Johnson was prepared for the shot at all. The fact he got up and stopped Stanley 3 or 4 seconds after he hit the canvas himself also adds to the evidence that the fight was probably being carried.
I agree with the Ketchel point, I think Johnson wasn't expecting him to get frisky (can't think of a better word soz) but I just couldn't envision someone like Ali being decked by the same shot. From memory there are several points in the Ketchel fight where Johnson was literally carrying him.

Just playing Devils advocate really.
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