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Originally Posted by mr. magoo
So you'd rate these wins over Douglas's win over Tyson, Lewis's win over Ruddock, Bowe's win over Holyfield, Foreman's win over Moorer, McCall's win over Lewis, Holy's rematch win over Bowe and several others that I can think of?
Here bro, let's take a look at some things together.
Here were the ring's ratings of Ike, Tua, Foreman and Moorer during the 90's.
GEORGE FOREMAN:
1990 - #10
1991 - #6
1992 - #6
1994 - #1
1995 - #8
1997- #6
Total Years ranked - 7
Highest ranking at any given point -#1
MICHAEL MOORER:
1991 - #10
1992 - #4
1993 - #4
1994 - #4
1995 - #4
1996 - #4
1997 - #3
Total Years ranked - 7
Highest ranking at any given point - #3 ( was probably closer to #1 in the monthly ratings of 1994, prior to losing to Foreman. )
DAVID TUA:
1996 - #8
1997 - #9
1998 - #8
1999 - #5
Total Years ranked - 4
Higest ranking at any given point - #5
IKE IBEABUCHI:
1997 - #8
1998 - #7
1999 - #4
Total years ranked - 3
Highest ranking at any given point - #4
CONCLUSION:
What you're basically doing is taking two contenders who were only ranked a few years and rating them over two guys who both ranked roughly twice the duration and who both held the lineal title. There is no logic in doing this.
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I'd rate them above Foreman's victory over Moorer but not the other's listed.
I don't care whether it's the lineal title or the WBC international title. the man makes the belt, not the other way round.
Tua has beaten: Ruiz, Izon, Maskaev, Tubbs and Rahman. If I think he deserved the Ike fight I'd happily put him number 5.
If not, Ike has taken the 0 from two top unbeaten contenders and would be deserving also.