Originally Posted by orriray59
Well, he did batter a prime Sugar Ray Leonard, he did terrorize Ken Buchanan, he dominated and stopped Davey Moore, outpointed Barkley (who defeated Tommy Hearns), arguably beat Camacho when he was way over the hill, hung in there with Hagler, defeated De Jesus twice, etc.
yeah but the best guys he ever fought who are ATG are Benitez,Leonard,Hearns,Hagler with a record of 1-5 (0), and in that loss to Ray, Ray avenged it. Stopping Moore and beating Barkley is still not beating a great. Ray Leonard was not prime, he was in his second defense of his first title. All Ray had to do was fight his fight and he didn't just beat Duran, he outclassed him. Duran quit when he was going to get knocked out. This is why I think Duran is overrated. He is still great but overrated. The guy lacks great wins over great fighters, regardless of having excuses when he did fight the greats, where are the wins over greats? Buchanan, Moore and Barkley are not great fighters. This is something which people have to acknowledge. Ok he is great. Dominant fighter, but why couldn't he beat the great fast great guys Hearns,Benitez,Leonard when they were in shape and ready to fight, and that was for titles.