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Old 10-17-2012, 01:47 AM   #44
Wilhelm
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Default Re: What is the best kicking martial art?

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Originally Posted by ROACH View Post
I don't understand why you say it leaves your leg more open to leg kicks when in the videos I posted, both guys could utilize leg kicks, but the Savate guy was in no more danger than the Muy Thai practitioner?

I mean, is it really necessary to stand squared up?

I don't see Anderson Silva standing squared up, nor Rampage.

Doesn't getting out of the way of a single leg take down come down more to the athlete rather than the style?

I mean, if you have slow reactions, you get taken down, right?

You said the Savate practitioner was very hard to spar, so why would you give the impression that Muy Thai is superior?

Wouldn't it be best to learn both, but utilize the Savate stance and footwork from a distance, and utilize either boxing or Muy Thai from up close?

I mean, I understand that Muy Thai has knees, but I've seen a guy get knocked out when he put somebody in a clinch, by the other guy who was throwing fast, short hooks.

I mean if you're strength is stand up, woudln't it be best to keep your distance and range, and if you get inside, typically against a guy rangier than you, would you want to try to knee him anyway?

Probably not right?

I mean, I've never seen anybody attempt to knee Jon Jones. In fact, the only way Jon Jones may be beatable is to catch him with a counter hook and hope he doesn't have a chin.

You're not going to beat him at a distance, and you can't knee him, so what good is Muy Thai knees?

I mean, the only time I really see Muy Thai knees work is when a guy is rushing in with his head down.

And I know you said, "it's easy to say, you can just learn knees," but what is there really?

I mean, it's pretty simple isn't it? It's not like it's rocket science. You just lock the guy behind his neck and drive your knee up. That's pretty simple.

In contrast, counterpunching and counterkicking someone like Savate emphasizes, that takes skill.

Am I wrong?

And I know you say, most people go with Muy Thai, but you know as well as I do, that most people don't really have much natural fluidity or rhthymm, so they would naturally be inclined to gravitate towards something that to me looks like it comes down to who can kick or punch the hardest or who can take the most punishment.
Don't ask six thousand questions in a post. There's no way anyone is going to answer every one and it makes it impossible to remember what you're actually interested in getting out of this thread.

You say all sorts of stuff about "but knees are only use blah" and "but this leg is turned blah" and "people aren't fluid blah" but you don't really know what you're talking about and you won't know until you go and try this stuff. Sorry, I know you're looking for some definitive answer before you try either but there's no way of know which will work better FOR YOU until YOU try them. Maybe you'll try MT and love it and forget all about this weird thread where you seem to want someone to tell you it's okay to do savate. Maybe you'll do savate and kick the shit out of everyone in your path and you'll feel super proud that you "knew it in advance". Who knows? No one does. Go try one, get decent at it by sparring a lot and then go to a gym where the teach whatever one you didn't choose and spar some other guys and see what you think. Sure, in a perfect world there would be 96 hours in a day and we'd all spend them training a dozen martial arts and all be stone cold badasses, but that's not the real world. Just go try it and be open minded and see what happens.

Jeeze.
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