Originally Posted by lufcrazy
we're not talking about Roberto on other nights nor are we talking about his losing efforts to Benitez or Hearns (both god shouts to beat him). we're talking about the fact he beat Leonard when both fought in their primes.
Everyone knows Duran wasn't 100% in the rematch, even Leonard himself knew this. It's his own stupid fault, he had 5 month to prepare, but none of this changes that we know with 100% certaitny that Leonard would not beat him that night because a prime version of him failed this task.
this is where you and I do not agree. Leonard was not prime in June of 1980. You said here Duran was prime, yet then when he lost to Benitez just a year and a half later he was somehow washed up. As for Leonard, all he had to do was get it in his head to fight his fight -learn the lesson not to fight Duran's fight and be suckered into it by emotions and he wins the fight. That was not Duran deciding he was being humiliated and quitting. Ray was starting to land punches to the head and body and Duran quit. I would even argue Leonard really was not prime yet for Hearns in 1981, but it was the closest thing to his prime he ever came since he retired after Bruce Finch in 1982. To think Leonard was prime on his second defense of his first title? By the same argument, Duran lost to Dejesus in his first defense of his title in 72 or 73, so the prime Duran lost to Dejesus? Now Duran had 30 or so fights when he lost to Dejesus, Leonard had about 25. My point is Leonard was not prime for Duran in the first fight as Duran was not prime for Dejesus the first time.