Originally Posted by Haggis McJackass
Yeah no doubt most guys now wouldn't want to scrap in unsanctioned, unregulated, barely legal, "no-holds-barred" events basically for free. And why would they?
But other guys in the modern era - Nick Diaz, Maldonado, shit, even ****ing Roy Nelson, in all likelihood - they don't give a shit. They'll fight anybody, they love the fight. BJ Penn would have fought in those old tournaments. Some guys just grow up fighting on the streets, they're fighting their whole lives and that's what they want to do.
Even someone who is perceived as somewhat of a pampered, entitled guy - Jon Jones - he demonstrated how tough he is against Belfort when he absolutely refused to tap even as his elbow was hyperextended. He bit down and gritted it out - he preferred to literally have his arm snapped rather than lose the fight. That's a real fighter no matter how you slice it. Would he have wanted to commit himself to such a fringe - and frankly, stupid - career path if he was around back in the day? Probably not - he had other, better options. Does that mean he's any less tough or has less love of the fight? Nope.
Saying that the likes of Liddell and Rampage are any tougher or more of a "real" fighter than Diaz or Maldonado simply because Chuck and Rampage came up in an era where the sport was underground is just ridiculous IMO. It's applying a standard that none of the modern guys can ever live up to, because none of them were ever in that situation where the "sport" was an underground irrelevancy.
Yeah, the guys now days are very tough people also. And I am impressed with these guys they are amazing fighters. I am a fan of the fighters now.
Back in the day I was not really into mma. I wish now that I had of followed it more closely since its infancy. I remember when the ultimite fighter tournements came out and I rented them and watched them. It was cool and reminded me of the movie blood sport. And I now wish that someone had the foresight to make documentarys of these fighters that fought for next to nothing with no rules and for no apparent reason . I think they were crazy and I think documentaries about crazy people are always the most interesting. Now its to late because mma fighting makes sense.