Originally Posted by bald_head_****
He got dropped by washed up versions of REAL champions and quit right before a new champion emerged.
Joe is Joe.
So was Hopkins terrible for being put down twice by Mercado then as you call him a real champ, or when he was lying on the floor after Echoles landed one on him only not to be counted, or when Hopkins was on the floor holding his shoulder. Or when Hopkins took a fall out the ring when things got tough with Allen?
What about when Jones got put down by Del Valle? Girard didnt go down against Del Valle, so does that make him better than Jones in your opinion?
Fact is Calzaghe unlike those 2 never did the chicken dance, never had to hold to survive.
Look at a fighter like Dawson who is LHW champ. He has been down more in his pro career than Calzaghe ever did amateur or pro.
Who was this new champion you mention?