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Old 11-10-2012, 07:22 AM   #38
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Default Re: Is De La Hoya overated?

I just watched the De La Hoya vs Whitaker fight.

Rd1 10-9 Whitaker: Both fighters threw and landed about the same. I gave the close round to Whitaker for being the aggressor and taking the fight to De La Hoya.
Rd2 10-9 De La Hoya: Whitaker putting on one of his greatest displays of untouchability making De La Hoya miss and miss, but not landing anything meaningful of his own.
Rd3 10-8 De La Hoya: Oscar landing uppercuts in close. A slip and a headbut, with a flurry and both men exchanging hard shots at the end. Oscar gets a mandatory second point for his cut according to the WBC. What kind of rule is that which favors fighters who cut easily?
Rd4 10-9 Whitaker: Whitaker dodging punches. Oscar throws a flurry at the end and nothing sticks. Oscar did some decent ducking bobbing and weaving himself.
Rd5 10-9 Whitaker: Whitaker elusive and winning by dint of superior jabbing and ring generalship. Crowd cheers as De La Hoya swats at air.
Rd6 10-9 De La Hoya: De La Hoya switches stance to southpaw and lands a bomb. Holds and hits in the clinch doing some of his best work. Whitaker gets frustrated, holds and hits, gets warned by Mills Lane.
Rd7 10-9 Whitaker: The fighters tangle up and fall to the canvas. Whitaker lands a good body shot. Oscar feints but Whitaker doesn't flinch. Oscar postures after the bell.
Rd8 10-9 De La Hoya: De La Hoya's round on the basis of one left hook. Looked like they were taking a breather and Whitaker was clowning, mugging for the crowd.
Rd9 10-8 Whitaker: Whitaker scored a knockdown off a light punch, where De La hoya was off balance and his knee and hand touched the canvas. Balances the cut point. Whitaker was winning the round before that by staying aggressive, landing more punches, landing better punches and exchanging with Oscar.
Rd10 10-9 De La Hoya: Close round but Whitaker lands a jab and Oscar lands a power shot. Some more holding and hitting. Oscar has widened his stance to stabilize himself after last round's knockdown. He's not rushing in anymore, but countering when Whitaker rushes him to good effect.
Rd11 Whitaker 10-9: Oscar tries to be elusive and use lateral movement. Bigger, taller, stronger, younger man looking cowardly. Whitaker bullies him around the ring and batters him against the ropes.
Rd12 Tie It's like they both agreed not to fight this last round.

7 points Whitaker, 6 points De La Hoya. If you gave the last round to De La Hoya it would still be a draw. It sure as hell wasn't a 116-110 match the way the judges saw it.

Chavez and Whitaker are both 34 and 36 when De La Hoya catches them, the same age as he was when Floyd and Pac caught him. The wins are equal. Whitaker and him both had the same amount of fights and coke habits. I'd say their mileage was about the same. Chavez had about sixty more fights than either. If De La Hoya's wins over Chavez and Whitaker are big wins then his losses to Pac and Floyd have to be just as big losses.

I don't have my score card from the De La Hoya Trinidad fight anymore, but I had De La Hoya with a commanding lead going into the last couple of rounds. But I had him losing them as 10-8 rounds and losing the decision. If you only scored the last rounds 10-9 he'd probably still have won. But that running sickened me, and if your opponent is just running away from you for 3 minutes without even throwing punches that is total dominance and a 10-8 round in my eyes. He had the fight won and he threw it away.

It probably cushioned the blow that he walked away with $24 million dollars for what was one of the worst boxing matches ever. Look at both men at the end of the bout. They look fresh and unmarked, like they could fight again. It wasn't the fight of the millenium, it was the opposite of war.
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