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Old 11-12-2012, 01:22 AM   #115
Hands of Iron
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Default Re: Is De La Hoya overated?

You, me and a couple others. This is only baee material, all era's are not equal.

What is different, LR?

SUGAR RAY ROBINSON's TOP 10 RATED OPPONENTS

Sugar Ray Robinson first appears in The Ring ratings on March 11, 1941. He debuts at No. 7 in the lightweight division.

1941: Sammy Angott (No. 1 LW) (@135)
1941: Maxie Shapiro (No. 9 LW) (@135)
1941: Fritzie Zivic (No. 1 WW)
-- Robinson debuts at No. 1 in the welterwight ratings after win over Zivic.
1942: Fritzie Zivic (No. 3 WW)
1942: Norman Rubio (No. 9 WW)
1942: Marty Servo (No. 7 WW)
1942: Sammy Angott (World LW Champ) (@ 147)
1942: Tony Motisi (No. 9 WW)
1942: Jake La Motta (No. 10 MW)
1942: Izzy Janazzo (No. 9 WW)
1942: Izzy Janazzo (No. 9 WW)
1943: Jake La Motta (No. 6 MW) - LOSS
1943: Jackie Wilson (No. 2 WW)
1943: Jake La Motta (No. 1 MW)
1943: Henry Armstrong (No. 2 WW)
1944: Vic Dellicurti (No. 10 MW)
1945: Tommy Bell (No. 6 WW(
1945: Jake La Motta (No. 3 MW)
1945: Jose Basora (No. 6 MW) - DRAW
1945: Jimmy McDaniels (No. 6 WW)
1945: Jake La Motta (No. 1 MW)
1946: Sammy Angott (No. 6 WW)
1946: Joe Curcio (No. 9 WW)
1946: Tommy Bell (No. 2 WW)
-- Wins vacant Welterweight title.
1947: Georgie Abrams (No. 3 MW)
1947: Jimmy Doyle (No. 6 WW)
1948: Bernard Docusen (No. 1 WW)
1948: Kid Gavilan (No. 1 WW)
1949: Kid Gavilan (No. 1 WW)
1949: Steve Belloise (No. 2 MW)
-- Robinson debuts at No. 1 at middleweight after win over Belloise. He still continues to hold the welterweight championship.
1950: George Costner (No. 2 WW)
1950: Robert Villemain (No. 2 MW)
1950: Charley Fusari (No. 5 WW)
1950: Robert Villemain (No. 4 MW)
1951: Jake La Motta (World MW Champion)
-- Robinson vacates welterweight title after win over LaMotta.
1951: Randy Turpin (No. 1 MW) - LOSS
1951: Randy Turpin (World MW Champion)
1952: Carl "Bobo" Olson (No. 5 MW)
1952: Rocky Graziano (No. 9 MW)
1952: Joey Maxim (World LHW Champion) - LOSS
-- Robinson retires for 30 months after loss to Maxim. Decidedly 'past-prime' here on.
1955: Rocky Castellani (No. 2 MW)
1955: Carl "Bobo" Olson (World MW Champion)
1956: Carl "Bobo" Olson (No. 1 MW)
1957: Gene Fullmer (No. 1 MW) -LOSS
1957: Gene Fullmer (World MW Champion)
1957: Carmen Basilio (World WW Champion) (@160)
1958: Carmen Basilio (World MW Champion)
1959: No fights vs. top contenders
1960: Paul Pender (No. 8 MW) - LOSS
1960:,Paul Pender (World MW Champion) - LOSS
1960: Gene Fullmer (No. 1 MW) - DRAW (Bowlshit)
1961: Gene Fullmer (No. 1 MW) - LOSS
1961: Denny Moyer (No. 9 MW)
1962: Denny Moyer (No. 9 MW) - LOSS
1962: Terry Downes (No. 3 MW) - LOSS
1963: Ralph Dupas (No. 3 WW) (@160)
1963: Joey Giardello (No. 3 MW) - LOSS
1964: No fights vs. top 10 contenders
1965: Stan Harrington (No. 9 MW) - LOSS
1965: Hoey Archer (No. 4 MW) - LOSS
-- Robinson retires after loss to Archer.

Losses against unrated opponents:
Ralph "Tiger" Jones (1955)
Phil Moyer (1962)
Mick Leahy (1964)
Memo Ayon (1965)
Stan Harrington (1965)
Fred Hernandez (1965)
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