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Old 11-12-2012, 11:16 PM   #63
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Default Re: Fat Dan: Wlad "one of the greatest heavyweight champions in history"

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Originally Posted by krazylegs View Post
Which is why majority of the people don't take that away from Louis and Holmes, and the reason they are considered ATG and top 10.

Wlad is and has been rated in most credible top 10 P4P lists for a while, competing against every fighter in every division to make those list. And he's there with many great and some ATG fighters, while other miss the list. That says more about him then his opposition. Especially when you take into account it very hard for heavyweights to make those lists, he last 2 being Lewis and Holyfield ATGs.

Now I generally dislike those list, and myself put little stock in them, since it's a little bit or a ridiculous assumption. I also dislike fantasy match ups against past greats, because Nostalgia can be very difficult thing to overcome, and in reality is just one persons perceptive vs another. So i try to look at it this way, could fighter A, give Fighter B a competitive fight, that either could win, taking into account every attribute possible. And if you can say yes, that's a very good complement.
You make good points and I respect your opinion. Contrary to popular belief I like Wlad (though I'm not fond of his style) and rank him 16th all-time. I think he'll move up to at least 12 by the end of his career and possibly into the top 10.
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