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Old 11-14-2012, 02:28 PM   #48
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Default Re: Old school training routines seem to be the simplest and most effective!

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Originally Posted by dealt_with View Post
i mentioned all those things because they are all factors to take into account. I'm not trying to make you feel inadequate about your knowledge, your knowledge is inadequate. Believe me i dont feel inadequate at all.


You make no sense from one sentence to the next, you've been punched in the head a few times yourself haven't you?
Naw, sorry to burst your bubble, it's natural.

A strength and conditioning coach has absolutely nothing to do with a fighter looking the part or having a six pack, it's about getting their athletes body ready for whatever sport it is they're competing in.
It sounds good, but as almost all weigh in's now include the fighter showing his sixpack and striking bodybuilder poses hmmmm. I know its only a coincidence that these guys have s&c guys working with them.
There's a boxing coach for boxing and a s+c guy for conditioning. If that was or is the case than yes but it clearly isnt. The s+c coach isn't going to be able to do a thing for the fighter when it comes to boxing skill and the boxing coach isn't going to be able to do much in regards to getting the fighter into peak physical condition.
Now what is it that you s&c guys cant understand, boxing trainers have gotten their fighters ready for over two hundred years that statement my friend is just dumb and it shows how arrogant s&c guys are. That there have been new and improved conditioning methods is fantastic, but dont act like all these boxing trainers are know nothngs.

Since it's the sport of boxing then obviously the boxing coach is going to have a far bigger influence on the outcome of a fight, if his guy isn't as fit or as strong as he could be his skills might still be more than enough to win comfortably. Simply being fit is never going to win a fight if you can't fight. For you to claim that the boxing coach is going to come up with a better conditioning routine than somebody who specialises in that is just plain idiotic. You must not know too much about what good trainers do, or know boxing history, a good trainer builds a team, the conditioning is one aspect only, believe it or not there have always been s&c guys throughout boxing history, go back as far as john l sullivan, he had an s&c guy. You didn't see sullivan strike bodybuilder poses, or displaying his beautiful six pack, the old school guys did what had to be done to get their fighters ready so give them some credit. Alex ariza is a great example of a s&c guy gone wild, now he gives fighters instructions and works the cuts, less you think it only ariza it's not, read the article that pecho posted on his post, of course you'll say that everybody quoted is full of.....
Which makes you a ****ing idiot, you're not open minded at all.
and i am that idiot lmao
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