Originally Posted by rusty nails
i really hate this term.. "sub defence"
theres no such thing as sub defence.... its all jiu jitsu, your sub defence is your knowledge of jiu jitsu
Of course it is all part of your knowledge of jiu jitsu. But some wrestlers only have basic (for high level fighters) levels of passing, and submissions from on top and almost no bottom game apart from explode and create a scramble, or hip escape get back to guard create a scramble. Where as they superb top control have very high level defense against submissions and are very hard to tap.
But saying a good wrestler with sub defense is easier.